Real Estate Head and Shoulders?
Chuck Ponzi January 19th, 2006
Every once in a while, we come across a new theory about the Southern California Real Estate market that is not widespread in its beliefs or has not yet caught momentum.
It’s always good to review others’ blogs to grab the cutting edge; sometimes comments are the most telling of all; those who have a flash of insight and care to write it down sometimes stumble upon something.
As I was reading a post that MISH over at Global Economic Analysis made the other day about the dramatic Centex One Day Sales events, my interest was piqued by a writers’ comments. You can find the original link here.
Right now, there are a lot of bubble watchers who want to get in during a so-called “correction” phase. These guys have cash on the side and they fundamentally believe that it’s a good thing to be a homeowner whereas the really astute individual realizes that a home is just that, a place to rest one’s body than an asset class like precious metals, AAA bonds, blue chip equities, etc.During the soft market of 2006/2007, a lot of these people will be getting into properties, discounted at 15-20%, thinking that they’d beaten the system. Afterwards, the overall volume of buyers will disappear and these individuals will also be stuck in properties that they, themselves, can’t sell if their company relocates or they loose their jobs.That’s when we’ll see a crash, ala 40-60%, down from 2000/2001 prices and the end of real estate as an asset class. It’ll revert back to a depreciating asset, much like a used car but with a steadier bottom of 30-40% of original list price up until the economy
starts to produce real jobs and then real estate can go back to being an inflation hedge but that’s perhaps another 12 to 15 years away.
Should we agree with his assessment?
Well, let’s rethink this a little bit. We can read a few assumptions into the mind of the writer.
First, his assumption is that there are a lot of people waiting on the sidelines with lots of cash ready to buy at current prices.
How much credence should we lend this theory? While we don’t have any statistics available for us to determine if any of this is true, this makes this a weak argument. While homeownership rates are at their highest they have ever been, and with taxes fairly substantial, many people are already homeowners. In fact, much of the premise of a housing bubble is built on the belief that it was predicated on the easy lending policies in the credit markets. It would be a hard sell that there are MORE people waiting on the sidelines that simply decided not to buy than already bought more than they could handle. You would also have to assume that builders will not try to build their way out of declining profits and slashing prices (Centex proves they will do just that)
Second, another assumption that he makes is that homeownership is primarily a lifestyle choice.
While I am certain that some individuals feel this way out of necessity, I would argue that there is a very strong and very real societal bias towards homeownership. Exclusion from certain groups, fear of being viewed as financially insecure, and fear of missing out has pushed record groups to buy homes. In addition, most would find that homebuying is related to I would say that this is not as likely.
Third, he assumes that purchase decisions will be nearly instananeous, and therefore the near-term future is difficult to predict. If homeowners fear prices are going back up, they will just buy immediately.
I would have to disagree if this is an assumption. RE transactions are notoriously slow and fraught with incompletions. I’m not seeing this one.
Because of the illiquid nature of the market and sticky prices, it would seem that we should expect a slow descent for a year or so with increasing momentum to the downside for several more after that. Perhaps the writer would attribute that to bubble sitters getting back in, but I’m inclined to believe that no one will wait out the entire pop to buy. Since it could easily take 6 or more years to fully deflate, a 28 y.o. could be 34 or older by the time they would be buying back in. That’s a lot of time to be sitting out of the market while their wife nags about it. While some would have that patience, it’s not likely that many of us are of the same mindset.
We will have to wait and see what will come of the next few years, but it seems pretty likely that 2006 will be a slightly down year from ‘05 prices, and ‘07 will quicken the pace.
There are other types of buyers: I’ve just been retired and have sold my silcon valey stucco box for my asking price. I’m moving to North San Diego and buying a much better house with change left over. I’d like for the bubble to POP there now and not in Santa clara vally. There is also some churning of silcon valley workers who live in the Stockton/Oakdale area and they’ve figured out that the gas savings alone could mean two house payments. I suspect commuting costs are going to be a factor as well as the other said.
Regards,
Shirt
Just like used car prices, the used house price does not depend upon the original purchase price but the price of new equivalent items. You aren’t going to see 40% of original purchase price but some sizeable fraction of the costs of new construction prices.
I believe the ugly little secret behind the housing bubble is the insane behavior of Generation X. The typical first time buyer is a Gen-Xer. No money down, no interest, you know the rest. These desperate wannabe’s have no sense of history. To them, house prices can only go up. As they lose their “equity” and their houses, they will blame the Boomers. It’s already happening on many blogs. Patrick.net is a good example. Bitter, pissed off, and dumb as door knobs. Just my TCW.
Riding this market decline out without buying in will require some change in thinking:
It’s a Renters Market – Thanks to the Housing Bubble
I wonder how it can be called a buyers market?
When it was a sellers market, there were many more sellers then there is bound to be buyers in the buyers market! The few buyers who have yet to buy will come in and then there will be nobody left, other than those who see the value in just renting.
(And now sellers have multiple properties….)
The “sellers market” and “buyers market” phrases are really stupid.
Buyers market means “overpriced” and sellers market means “underpriced”.