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Chuck Ponzi July 17th, 2006

Then… August 17, 1981

A word to the wise: The great Los Angeles housing boom is over. The real estate price explosion in southern California, which sparked a national boom still continuing elsewhere, has stopped. The bubble that everyone said could never burst has burst. All over Los Angeles and Orange County, home buyers can buy a property for less than it would have cost a year ago, although there are exceptions. Buyers who can pay cash can almost steal houses and real estate. The days when ordinary citizens got rich from buying houses are gone, at least for the time being and at least in southern California.
But what a bubble it was. In the 10 years from 1970 to 1980, the price of the average house in Beverly Hills went up by a factor of almost seven. The average house in West Los Angeles, a region of by no means opulent homes, rose by almost six times. Houses in Malibu routinely doubled in value every year in the late 70’s. By the end of the decade, newspapers advertisted ‘’starter houses,” for families who had never owned before, in remote desert suburbs starting at $200,000.
Any lucky person who got in on the boom in the early 70’s saw his paper profit reach about 30 times his down payment by 1980. People who had never earned more than $40,000 suddenly found that they were millionaires just from that little house with a pool in Pacific Palisades. Ronald Reagan is said to have paid $29,000 in the early 50’s for a house in Pacific Palisades that is now for sale for $1.7 million and cannot be sold, which is the whole story.
The boom went on for such a long time because the economics were right. All through the 70’s the cost of owning a house in the better neighborhoods of Los Angeles was negative. That is, the cost of servicing the mortgage plus taxes was less, usually far less, than the increase in the price of the house. Figure it out: mortgages were less than 10 percent for almost all of that decade, under 7 percent if you count the tax features, and houses were increasing in value all over the West Side of Los Angeles by a good 20 percent a year on a compounded basis. The banks, savings and loan institutions and and the economy generally were paying families to live in the better neighborhoods of Los Angeles. The economics of housing inflation were such that for a long period, lenders made mortgage loans at rates substantially below the appreciation of the houses they were loaned upon and in some years, noticeably below even the trend line for inflation. This cheap credit fueled the takeoff of the boom. As prices rose to stratospheric levels, the price history itself fed the boom. Real estate agents assured buyers that however high prices were, they would go even higher.
Wives went to work. Second mortgages were drawn up. People would do anything to get in on the boom, which looked as if it would never end. Even when prices got so high that ordinary citizens could no longer afford to get in, rich people came from all over the country and the world to get in on the one true never-ending bubble.

And Now July 17, 2006

The market also began to fade first in San Diego. The craziness seemed to peak about two years ago, when bidders routinely submitted letters saying that they and their children would be forever honored if the seller would consent to choose them.
Whatever happens here, optimists and pessimists agree, will happen later in the rest of the state.
That’s about the only thing everyone agrees on. The size of the coming hangover is a particularly contentious matter.
Most analysts and people in the real estate industry insist it will be mild. The housing bears say the bulls are either misguided, uninformed or shills.
At a Century 21 sales office in the Ocean Beach neighborhood, broker David Davis said the market had already bottomed out. The spring was weak, he acknowledged, averaging only one or two sales a month — half the office’s usual rate.
But things are already back on track, Davis said. He expects four sales this month, about normal.
The last San Diego real estate collapse, which hit in the early 1990s, was triggered by convulsions in the aerospace industry. The post-Cold War downturn caused widespread unemployment and a generalized exodus from much of Southern California. High interest rates contributed to the misery.
“Our No. 1 industry is now tourism,” Davis said. “Unless they take away the sun, we’ll be fine.”
He’s putting his money where his optimism is, spending $187,000 over the winter for a downtown condo he’ll live in. He knows other agents who are buying too. “I think they see a good thing,” he said. “Buy low, sell high.”
If Davis radiates cheer, the fliers taped to the window outside the office door tell a different story. “Huge Price Reduction,” one says. Another says both “Reduced” and “$15,000 Credit.”
In some cases, the prices are dropping faster than the fliers can be reprinted.
A two-bedroom town home has its price of $324,900 crossed out with a marking pen, replaced by $309,900. Another house, a four-bedroom in suburban La Mesa, has a printed price of $575,000.
Below that is handwritten $549,000.
Scribbled below that is a new minimum: $499,000.
What helped supercharge the San Diego boom was the spread of unconventional financing methods.
Some adjustable-rate loans allowed buyers to postpone payments on the principal. Sometimes the loans allow the buyer to pay only part of the interest, tacking the remainder onto the loan itself.
The advantage of these loans is that buyers can afford much more house. The disadvantage is that they reset quickly, which is why critics call them suicide loans. After the grace period expires, the payments can skyrocket — particularly if it is a time of rising interest rates like the present.
Holders of these loans can’t afford to see prices decline. Yet for everyone who has been shut out of the market, the only hope is a drastic slide.
“Houses really need to fall by 50% to become affordable again,” said Tom Scott, executive director of the San Diego Housing Federation, a coalition of nonprofit and advocacy groups. “It would be better for everyone if the price of housing fell.”
Buck, the homemaker, said she and her electrician husband, Andre, might start looking at foreclosures. Notices of default, the precursor to foreclosure, reached 1,533 in San Diego County in the first quarter of 2006, up 60% from the year-earlier period, according to DataQuick Information Systems. The number is still low by historical standards, however.

The most surprising thing of the second article is that Rich Toscano drives a silver Miata…. Rich? A Miata?

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17 Comments »

Comment by Lindismith
2006-07-17 11:08:00

With global warming comes more days of humidity with rain during summers - so don’t count on the sun keeping tourists here!

 
2006-07-17 12:02:00

My wife got the practical car, I got the fun car. Seems fair to me. ;-)

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-17 12:02:00

“He’s putting his money where his optimism is, spending $187,000 over the winter for a downtown condo he’ll live in.”

$187,000?????

 
Comment by Markus Arelius
2006-07-17 15:42:00

Tourism? OK, the sun has to keep shining and someone has to fix the baggage claim problem at Orange County airport. Waiting 45 minutes for your bags at a tiny airport does not leave tourists in a sunny, I-wanna-come-back disposition.

Last I checked, as family discretionary income declines, so too will expenditures for travel, vacations, cruises, etc.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself, Mr. Davis.

 
Comment by awaiting bubble rubble
2006-07-17 22:23:00

Ummmm… isn’t tourism kind of a low wage service industry deal? Aerospace was a high wage, high education professional deal and mortgage industry is a college degree, can sit in a cubicle deal, but tourism? I don’t think that really supports $5K mortgages.

Also, when one looks at previous declines in terms of inflation-adjusted dollars, the 1990 bubble did see a 50% drop in prices in the bubbliest (coastal) areas.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-18 01:47:00

But what a bubble it was. In the 10 years from 1970 to 1980, the price of the average house in Beverly Hills went up by a factor of almost seven.

If a bubble popped in 1980, it doesn’t show up in this graph:

LA 1975-2005

You can clearly see the 1989 popping, especially in inflation-adjusted returns, but 1980 was a very soft landing that went into another bubble starting in 1986.

 
Comment by John Doe
2006-07-18 06:09:00

Anonymous 1:47 AM

I believe this is the issue that has been mentioned numerous times by realtors and is also playing out in this pop as well.

If you were to compare same-house or comparable house sales, there is a price slump. However, because of the steep dropoff in first-time buyers, the median appears strong despite the drop in prices. This often shows up as flat medians, while volume drops significantly.

A closer measure (which coincidentally isn’t available that I’m aware of) is a measure of assessed land and building prices. You should see building pricess match inflation or very closely, while land prices per sq ft. fluctuate much more strongly.

Essentially, in 4 or 5 years, the median in OC will likely still be high, but what you can get for the money will be astounding compared to now.

I know even in my current neighborhood, a 4 bedroom model that sold last year for 789,000 is now listed for 699,000 for 2 months and hasn’t sold. It’s pretty cookie cutter and they’re across the street from one another with the same elevation and lot size, so they’re pretty comparable.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-18 07:18:00

I know I’m looking for a crystal ball but when are these prices going to go down in earnest. We live in LA, earn $170K a year and just don’t want to spend $5K a month on a starter home so we keep saving. Around here we see some deductions but the prices are still so unrealistic it’s shocking and the houses are selling. It’s taking longer but they do sell.

 
Comment by John Doe
2006-07-18 08:20:00

Anon,

You’re probably looking at 2-3 years before prices drop in earnest (2008-2009). We’re just barely coming off of the crack binge of easy credit, and while prices may slip a little here, we’ll likely have a little sucker rally late next year before it does a 180 and heads down again. The real bargains will likely be in 2010 or 2011.

Not willing to wait that long just to be right about a financial decision? There’s always moving out or giving in to the higher prices. You just need to be prepared for price decreases and to be locked into a home for quite a while. Most people I knew when I bought my first place in 1999/2000 were talking about just breaking even from 1988 and 1989 prices, so these cycles take a while.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-18 14:08:00

i have friends that told me stories of how back in the late 70’s they used to ride their bikes in the sub-division that were left half built cause the money ran out and the builder went BK.

i also had a customer tell how lost about a millions dollars in socal RE about the same time.

in my own ecperience i bought in ‘91 and didn’t get back to zero until 2000, and this time the pain will have to be a factor of 10 worse.

i was upside down to the tune of about 50K. this time it very well could be 200K-300K, back then people walked away over 50K they will prolly burn the house down this time!!!!!

 
Comment by awaiting bubble rubble
2006-07-18 15:24:00

Anon’s chart showing median prices in LA since 75 is pretty nice but doesn’t show $/square foot or volume. The trend to build huge boxes really took off in the 80s and only got worse in the 90s. Also, another poster pointed out that medians can rise because a market segment is priced out. In the current bubble there is a huge amount of bad debt waiting to hit, the so called “suicide loans.” Once the portfolios start failing, the regulatory regimes will tighten and eliminate some of the dumber loan programs for people who clearly can’t afford a mortgage. This will slam the first time buyer markets, which normally fare better than high end stuff. If this happens, median prices as published might show a rise even though when normalized by volume and $/sq foot, they are clearly falling.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-18 19:18:00

“ding dong, the witch is dead…”

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-07-19 02:04:00

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:08:55 PM

my lack of grammer and spelling amazes even me, and i even previewed that and fixed stuff.

:lol:

p.s. i had to be buzzed to see the mistakes.

 
Comment by InfidelSix
2006-07-19 17:36:00

I really don’t understand the point of using median price for charts as it is easily skewed and misrepresenting “the reality”. Would $/ sq ft. be better on the y axis? It’s fairly unskewable.

 
Comment by Avanti1965
2006-09-01 14:13:00

The pending aerospace worker layoffs due to the closing of the LB Boeing facility could hasten the downfall. These people, many of them, will sell their homes while the gettin’s good and move to Seattle, or Wichita; where Boeing still builds planes.

 
Comment by Avanti1965
2006-09-01 14:17:00

A LITTLE HELP FROM OUR FRIENDS

Hey, J. Doh, or however you pronounce it. We really “can’t wait” until 2011. We’d like to move next month, certainly next year. My wife makes $75K; I $40K yet we cannot afford a condo in Van Nuys!!!

Could you do a little wishful thinking and move your Date of Armagæddon to, say Feb. ‘07?

 
Comment by Anonymous
2006-09-09 18:00:00

I agree with you. I think it’s very true. I think the people who run http://www.housefalls.com are from Southern California as well since they mention Burbank and Pasadena in some of their posts.

Crash and Burn. That’s all there is to say.

 
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