“Bailouts can make people more reckless in the future”
Chuck Ponzi March 28th, 2007
With recent talk from Senator Dodd about a bailout for the “little man”, we’re left to ponder who a bailout would really help or hurt, who pays, and who benefits from it.
Luckily, the guys over at Wharton (which, surprisingly have more credibility than some anonymous guy with a blog) have given the media world some soundbites to play over and over again.
We began speaking of Moral Hazard once the downturn started. When you fix someone else’s problem, you create an incentive for that person to do the thing that caused the problem… they’ll just get bailed out again.
From Wharton’s school of Business:
“I think that for the moment, they should probably leave it alone,” says Joseph Gyourko, professor of real estate and finance at Wharton, warning that bailouts can make people more reckless in the future. “We don’t want to introduce moral hazard …. We don’t understand this very well right now, so any regulation is probably going to be wrong or imprecise.”
In fact, he says, the market is already correcting the problem. Lenders have dramatically cut their offerings of the most hazardous products –such as loans that require no down payment or proof of the borrower’s income, or those which allow borrowers to decide for themselves how much to pay each month.
Ken Thomas, a lecturer on finance at Wharton, argues that people and institutions that make risky choices are usually best left to suffer the consequences. “When we had the last big financial meltdown with stocks in 2001, did we consider bailing out those who lost money in the dot-com crash?” he asks. “We try to have markets regulate, not the government. Markets do a much better job.”
What we are seeing right now is that the markets are reacting to better information than they previously had. Like Newton’s 3rd law of motion: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In Economics, we say “There’s No Such Thing As A Free Lunch”
Besides, who would a bailout help? Certainly not homeowners. How could you weed out who where truly in trouble, and who were opportunists? Wouldn’t that saving create a need that you would later need to feed? What about my free lunch too? Would I (as a taxpayer) need to pay for someone else’s indiscretion? What about the money I lost in the stock market in 2001, can I get a refund there too?  For those subprime homeowners… many of them came to the table with bad credit and no cash. So, they’re leaving with bad credit and no cash, is their life that much worse off, and is that our collective problem that they cannot manage money?
On the other hand, lenders wouldn’t lose a penny. They were the ones who recklessly took risks and offered the loans to the higher credit risk for a higher return. A bailout would only serve to line their pockets for taking outsized risks. There’s a reason that it’s called risk in the first place.
Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, plans to introduce legislation to protect homeowners from foreclosure and to crack down on predatory lenders who pushed high-risk loans on unsuspecting borrowers. Clinton is pushing for a federally mandated “foreclosure timeout” that would give homeowners more time to catch up on their payments, and she wants to curtail the prepayment penalties that make it hard for troubled borrowers to refinance. The National Community Reinvestment Coalition wants the Federal Housing Administration to be given new power to refinance subprime borrowers’ loans, and it wants the federal government to set up a fund for rescuing low-income homeowners.
Senator Dodd, you are treading on thin ice. Be careful where you step. The next one could be the wrong one. Nothing like a good scandal to end one’s political career. We all know you’re in bed with the financing organizations… all it takes is one false step.
We have poor minorities that will feel very victimized (some were) looking for a handout. Going to be very hard on them and it will cause racial tensions to rise.
They will probably get some form of bailout. As a middle age white male I’ll probably end up marginalized again.
Its really really tough to walk the fine line in this society that doesn’t throw things out of balance one way or the other. Rewarding bad behavior too much or not offering some kind of help.
Guess looking back at the older welfare system; we rewarded people for not working and having more children. So they didn’t work and had more kids. Vicous cycle.
Now, we might reward malinvestment or overspending at the expense of the hard working saver. Getting real close to the point where I quit my job and spend time with the kids.
I can feel the pain comming.
We have FDIC insurance for the banks and that will bail them out from the mess. They get the rewards of high profits and we get crushed with the debt. Shouldn’t Dodd be questioning that aspect.
We should also be looking at the underwriters to see if they did do dilegence. Similar to what we saw with the A. Anderson scandal.
Nope. We just plan on taking money from middle class guy that is paying a high tax rate already. Hand it to someone else so housing stays unaffordable. I’ll have much less effective income and much hihger prices to look at next year.
Its not just me but it will also screw all the young families that didn’t get swept up in this. Not to mention all the people that lost their houses in the last couple of years (some of my family member included).
All those supposed “victims”… two years ago the accountant that did my taxes remarked my refund of 12000$ was a nice peice of chump change. Minority female tax preparer… bragged about her worth being so high because she owned a house in LA.
She will be right there with them crying victim when this disintegrates. bet she Heloc’d for a Lincon navigator and a cruise in the bahama’s.
Me, I’m driving a Civic and camping in Big Bear for vacation.
Anyhow… like to see them back away from this stuff and try to encourage good behavior instead of decreasing rewards for it.
I’m convinced that our generation needs to step up to the plate and make our lazy good for nothing lawmakers answer to us.
I’m mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.
I’m not a democrat yet, but Obama makes me want to be one. I’ve got no bone to pick with the parties themselves, but rather I can’t wait until we get boomers out with their petty whining and pandering to bleeding heart special interests and minorities. What about the majority? To we just go get bent? Well, screw you too. I may have to take on a political agenda (not against a specific party, mind you) against apathy.
The stupidity of lawmakers makes me want to scream sometimes.
Chuck Ponzi
Chuck,
I wholly agree. Bailing out with economic cash injections to get people out of trouble is like the Parent who gives his kid everything and they never learn for themselves. If people are dumb enough not to pick up a calculator and do some basic 3rd grade math to figure out the “Gee, the house we just bought costs more per month than we make!” then they need to feel the pain of the consequence. The same goes for the lenders that duped these people. Also, not reading the contract is no excuse. Not doing their homework and due diligince is no excuse. Ingorance is no excuse.
Bailing these idiots out is also no excuse and is a great way to play the sympathy of distressed homeowners. What better song to sing to Joe& Mary Public who are buried because of their own economic stupidity?
I can’t stand all this “entitlement” thinking…
What ever happen to the notion of EARNING
and only purchasing when you worked hard enough, and saved enough to do so. Things
are too easy to obtain because of all these
100%, No Docs, Interest Only(Buy whatever you desire because you deserve it) loans…nothing is special anymore…
everyone has a Hummer, Plasma, Dream Home…you name it…and most probably haven’t come close to saving a penny for it!
Did we forget that the American Legal System has a way or righting wrongs done to the truly oppressed? Let’s just hope the class action includes all the right people in the REIC. Let the market take care of the fraudsters.
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There is some room for some small, but sensible changes in the tax code though to keep people from getting seriously burnt by declining real estate prices (which will make things more in line with the risks associated with stocks):
Right now, let’s say I buy a house for $800,000, and sell it in a short sale for $700,000 with a mortgage balance of $750,000. I’m going to be taxed on that $50,000. It would be a useful and reasonable thing to allow the short sale income to be offset by a capital loss in the sale of the house (I wouldn’t let it be a straight deduction necessarily). This means that people who’ve already suffered severe losses in the market won’t get hit with an additional tax bill (I had it happen on a smaller scale ten years ago). This won’t benefit everyone: The person who buys at $200,000, takes out a pile of home equity loans as their property goes up in value and ends up doing a short sale at $300,000 with a mortgage of $350,000 is still going to be pretty screwed (they’ll have capital gains tax on $100K plus ordinary income of $50K).