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	<description>Southern California is Experiencing a Real Estate Bubble like never before</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9988</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 06:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuckie... been with you for a year on the assessment of where this was heading.  It's been really fun now to see all those who thought we were being "wishful" thinkers that a real estate downfall would ever occur in California... Where are all the so call Real Estate experts now??  I saw it happening in 2005 and sold my property to recapture a better situation that I knew would happen.  It really disconnected when the sub-prime loans began to be the mainstream and anyone, I mean anyone who understood the nature of this had to see it was going to be short term.  I cannot understand how anyone (other than those who bought years ago) thought that an income to housing ratio of 10+ to 1 would get to far.  It's a great conversation to listen in on for those who purchased recently and their disposition... really, where did you go to school.  See ya on the surf....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuckie&#8230; been with you for a year on the assessment of where this was heading.  It&#8217;s been really fun now to see all those who thought we were being &#8220;wishful&#8221; thinkers that a real estate downfall would ever occur in California&#8230; Where are all the so call Real Estate experts now??  I saw it happening in 2005 and sold my property to recapture a better situation that I knew would happen.  It really disconnected when the sub-prime loans began to be the mainstream and anyone, I mean anyone who understood the nature of this had to see it was going to be short term.  I cannot understand how anyone (other than those who bought years ago) thought that an income to housing ratio of 10+ to 1 would get to far.  It&#8217;s a great conversation to listen in on for those who purchased recently and their disposition&#8230; really, where did you go to school.  See ya on the surf&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Albuquerque real estate</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9923</link>
		<dc:creator>Albuquerque real estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, for someone who used to dislike writing, you definitely have a gifted mind for writing now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, for someone who used to dislike writing, you definitely have a gifted mind for writing now!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9789</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chuck, Thanks! for all you do..
Do you feel high end areas such as RSF, La jolla, Del Mar etc. eventually will be affected by the crisis in the next couple of years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chuck, Thanks! for all you do..<br />
Do you feel high end areas such as RSF, La jolla, Del Mar etc. eventually will be affected by the crisis in the next couple of years?</p>
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		<title>By: speedingpullet</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9453</link>
		<dc:creator>speedingpullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see you back Chuck! 

We all have lives outside of the blogs, I'll still keep coming back - I appreciate your hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see you back Chuck! </p>
<p>We all have lives outside of the blogs, I&#8217;ll still keep coming back - I appreciate your hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Ponzi</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9350</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a SWAG.

Based on:

1.  Lessons gleaned from prior real estate cycles
2.  Knock-on effects of removing monetary and housing-credit related stimulus.
3.  Resets and neg-am blow-back.
4.  Propensity for markets to achieve MAX PAIN.

It's still just a guess.  I think we'll lose quite a bit of value on the books next year when the knock-on effects start to really pick up steam.

Confidence is not yet destroyed for the mortgage market, and that will likely happen late this year and early next year.  People still believe it is subprime related, when fraud was rampant throughout it all, subprime just resets at least one year earlier than all others.  That takes another 6 to 18 months for the full effect to be felt in the housing market.

If anything, that date would be pushed out, not shortened.

People have a tendency to underestimate the full effects of proximate causes.  Think the Iraqi war.  In and out in 18 months?  I don't think so.  So far, the media is vastly underestimating the ability of the economy and general population to absorb the losses we are just now incurring.

Chuck Ponzi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a SWAG.</p>
<p>Based on:</p>
<p>1.  Lessons gleaned from prior real estate cycles<br />
2.  Knock-on effects of removing monetary and housing-credit related stimulus.<br />
3.  Resets and neg-am blow-back.<br />
4.  Propensity for markets to achieve MAX PAIN.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still just a guess.  I think we&#8217;ll lose quite a bit of value on the books next year when the knock-on effects start to really pick up steam.</p>
<p>Confidence is not yet destroyed for the mortgage market, and that will likely happen late this year and early next year.  People still believe it is subprime related, when fraud was rampant throughout it all, subprime just resets at least one year earlier than all others.  That takes another 6 to 18 months for the full effect to be felt in the housing market.</p>
<p>If anything, that date would be pushed out, not shortened.</p>
<p>People have a tendency to underestimate the full effects of proximate causes.  Think the Iraqi war.  In and out in 18 months?  I don&#8217;t think so.  So far, the media is vastly underestimating the ability of the economy and general population to absorb the losses we are just now incurring.</p>
<p>Chuck Ponzi</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben Garza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruben Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This market is in stall mode.  Sellers unwilling to go down on their prices not seeing reality.  Buyers staying back and starting to see reality.

Foreclosures are up and they sooner or later are starting to go up for auction and this process is just beginning.  Once in auction then the vultures come in and bid low and low and sooner or later a house that sold for 600,000 will be auctioned off for 300,000 or less.

Then the stalled greedy seller who is asking 650,000 for his house will realize that the foreclosed home in his neighborhood just sold at auction for 300,000.  Problem is that the more this happens these houses become comparisons and they will, they will, bring down the prices.

The buyer now thinks to himself, Joe is asking 650,000 and the house next door just sold at auction for 300,000, who is the fool??  Wait to buy this thing is comming.  

Housing market is overpriced anybody buying in this market pays 4,000 or more a month not including taxes this is inflation but were told there is no inflation?  8 years ago people were paying 1,500 for mortgage now it's over 4,000 and we don't have inflation!  The housing market is way over inflated!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This market is in stall mode.  Sellers unwilling to go down on their prices not seeing reality.  Buyers staying back and starting to see reality.</p>
<p>Foreclosures are up and they sooner or later are starting to go up for auction and this process is just beginning.  Once in auction then the vultures come in and bid low and low and sooner or later a house that sold for 600,000 will be auctioned off for 300,000 or less.</p>
<p>Then the stalled greedy seller who is asking 650,000 for his house will realize that the foreclosed home in his neighborhood just sold at auction for 300,000.  Problem is that the more this happens these houses become comparisons and they will, they will, bring down the prices.</p>
<p>The buyer now thinks to himself, Joe is asking 650,000 and the house next door just sold at auction for 300,000, who is the fool??  Wait to buy this thing is comming.  </p>
<p>Housing market is overpriced anybody buying in this market pays 4,000 or more a month not including taxes this is inflation but were told there is no inflation?  8 years ago people were paying 1,500 for mortgage now it&#8217;s over 4,000 and we don&#8217;t have inflation!  The housing market is way over inflated!!</p>
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		<title>By: LA Renter</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9326</link>
		<dc:creator>LA Renter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck:
Nice to have you back. I will continue to check in, as I really enjoy your posts.  
I plan to buy in 09-10, that gives me another three years to keep on socking it away for my 20% down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck:<br />
Nice to have you back. I will continue to check in, as I really enjoy your posts.<br />
I plan to buy in 09-10, that gives me another three years to keep on socking it away for my 20% down.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9321</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the hard work.

I'm now officially a senior, and I've seen several real estate cycles. For those enjoying affordable housing, this is not a doomsday scenario.

The high living and greedy will get burned, but their lifestyles and/or their gamblers' mentality was bound to be their downfall.

Hang in there. While you're busy just living, this will slowly pass.

I am curious how 2011 was picked as a bottom for this market. Was this based on mortgage renewal dates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the hard work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now officially a senior, and I&#8217;ve seen several real estate cycles. For those enjoying affordable housing, this is not a doomsday scenario.</p>
<p>The high living and greedy will get burned, but their lifestyles and/or their gamblers&#8217; mentality was bound to be their downfall.</p>
<p>Hang in there. While you&#8217;re busy just living, this will slowly pass.</p>
<p>I am curious how 2011 was picked as a bottom for this market. Was this based on mortgage renewal dates?</p>
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		<title>By: LAEF2</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAEF2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Chuck,

I´m in Cancun enjoying the occasional topless sunbather. Put down the axe and relax for a while.

Love the site and link to all the great econ sites and HBB too.

When all this went crazy it was great to go out and find useful information. Rare these days with all the spin.

Try to find information on anything and you are burried falacious crap from MSM and other bull.

Thanks for all the hard work. You can ease up because the crisis is now apparent to everyone and acelerating. We will all get burned by this but at least you helped keep a few people from making it worse.

LAEF2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Chuck,</p>
<p>I´m in Cancun enjoying the occasional topless sunbather. Put down the axe and relax for a while.</p>
<p>Love the site and link to all the great econ sites and HBB too.</p>
<p>When all this went crazy it was great to go out and find useful information. Rare these days with all the spin.</p>
<p>Try to find information on anything and you are burried falacious crap from MSM and other bull.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the hard work. You can ease up because the crisis is now apparent to everyone and acelerating. We will all get burned by this but at least you helped keep a few people from making it worse.</p>
<p>LAEF2</p>
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		<title>By: Live And Work In Irvine</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/07/where-in-the-world-is-chuck-ponzi.html/comment-page-1#comment-9304</link>
		<dc:creator>Live And Work In Irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo your sentiments and have stopped talking about the bubble with people.

I don't think they understand the freight train that is coming down the tracks.

The simply fact is, if you can't afford an indexed payment, you can't afford the house.

Thank your for the insightful posts. I've followed you since your day's on Ben's blog.

Even though you've been on hiatus, you're in my startup websites and will look forward to occasional posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo your sentiments and have stopped talking about the bubble with people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they understand the freight train that is coming down the tracks.</p>
<p>The simply fact is, if you can&#8217;t afford an indexed payment, you can&#8217;t afford the house.</p>
<p>Thank your for the insightful posts. I&#8217;ve followed you since your day&#8217;s on Ben&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>Even though you&#8217;ve been on hiatus, you&#8217;re in my startup websites and will look forward to occasional posts.</p>
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		<title>By: sunsetbeachguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunsetbeachguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Doe or Chuck Ponzi:

Thanks for the update.  I agree it is all over except for the wailing and knashing of teeth for the next 3-4 years.

Post as often as you want and I will keep checking back occasionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Doe or Chuck Ponzi:</p>
<p>Thanks for the update.  I agree it is all over except for the wailing and knashing of teeth for the next 3-4 years.</p>
<p>Post as often as you want and I will keep checking back occasionally.</p>
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