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At What Point Criminal?

Chuck Ponzi December 18th, 2007

With a quick read through of the Yahoo news the other day, you’ll find out that a real estate trade group (NAR) is actually predicting a rosier 2008 than previously (as if something had improved over the past few months). Indeed, things have considerably worsened, as is evidenced by San Diego’s more than 12 months of inventory along with price per square foot down almost 20%.

I also provided an example in my own neighborhood, a supposedly impenetrable fortress of prices in South Orange County. The featured property is now currently listed at 584,900, 21% off of its last purchase price (27% of it’s current asking price, or in other words, would have to appreciate 27% to reach it’s last price, or about 5 years of average SoCal appreciation).

We have erased 5 years of gains in the last 2. No wonder we are seeing more and more disinformation from the group that we are about to highlight. Is it any wonder that the happy talk comes from none other than our favorite pinata, the National Association of Realtors. How anyone would take them seriously after so many botch-jobs, is beyond me. One can only take so much stupidity before disgust sets in.

Nevertheless, it’ll be nice if someone later takes them to task for their intentional misleading. As a side note, I remember a recent article that stated that the real estate industry should form a self-regulating group and the NAR was proposed as the starting point… ha ha ha. Consider the following from their glowing 2008 forecast:

Nevertheless, the Realtors group’s chief economist, Lawrence Yun, gave a positive outlook for job growth and the replacement of subprime lenders to borrowers with weak credit with government-backed loans as reasons for the improved outlook.

“Despite over-exaggerated negative coverage on the housing conditions, many local markets are actually seeing price increases,” Yun said at a press briefing. “Mortgage availability is improving.”

In my mind’s eye, I can see Nelson pointing, and laughing his scornful Ha Ha.

I was trying some way to find a positive spin on Yun’s comments, but I have failed. I cannot imagine a group that cares less about their general perception over self-induced delusion.

I only wonder at what point those kinds of thoughts should be considered criminal.  Serial bottom-calling by trade groups is not allowed in other free markets, causing investor losses.  Why should it be tolerated in the NAR?  Perhaps the RICO act could be extended enough into this kind of activity.  It’d be good to see Lawrence Yun or David Lereah take a perp walk for those they injured.

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Comment by bulwark
2007-12-18 21:57:24

I have always felt the NAR should be sued out of existence. Its sole purpose is to mislead average folks into buying real estate. It does this with “economists” who can not possibly believe what they say. Some day a good lawyer will seize Lereah and Yun’s computers and emails. No doubt there’s alot of evidence showing how they aim to mislead the public. It’s just like the tobacco industry.

Comment by worm
2007-12-22 20:52:02

Be careful quoting prices. San Diego is already down another $10,000 in December.

you can get updates every 7 days on MLS. Which is a good place for an idea on actual home sales.

http://www.housingtacker.net/old_housingtacker/

updated late at night on the 1, 8,15,22,29.

2011 or 2012 the major bottom

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Comment by Carol
2007-12-19 22:51:41

The NAR statements remind me of ’studies’ that show how safe and effective certain pharmaceuticals are, and then people die from using them. What they don’t tell you is that the neutral and objective doctors who performed the trial were paid by the pharmaceutical company requesting approval for their drug.

Everyone knows that you never ask NAR its outlook on the real estate market–because it’s always good.

“Overcoming Real Estate Losses”
http://WhineCountryRealEstate.blogspot.com/

 
Comment by San
2007-12-24 20:17:04

This blog is so “fool” of doom and gloom. I am not a Realtor. Just a home owner. If you purchased a home five years ago and put 20% or more down then you are fine today. Unless you used your home as an ATM machine. Those that purchsed homes from 2005 and put little or no moeny down. Ya blew it. Thats like investing in the stock market and borowing money on(margin) and hoping the value go’s up. However when it go’s down you had to sell your stock at a discout on the money you borrowed. The lending to these unqualified borrowers never made any sense. NAR is not to blam. Its the borrowers and the Wall Street buyers of bad mortgage debt that are to blame. Plan and simple. The market will correct in mid 08. There will just be a strong rental market and I will be buying homes to rent out.

Comment by bulwark
2008-01-01 19:40:12

San, you can’t fool us. With spelling like that you must be a Realtor!

 
 
Comment by brainsurgeon
2008-01-07 13:15:52

If it goes down 27% it will have to gain more than 27% to reach the peak price again.

100 - 27% = 72
72 + 27% = 91.44

Yes, I had to use a calculator.

Warning - I am not an actual Brain Surgeon.

 
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