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Floppin’ Flippers Flawless Failure

Chuck Ponzi February 26th, 2008

Some of you will remember the post I made in October 2006 Defying All Logic and Reason where I profiled 2 different houses that were nearly identical as an example of irrational exuberance.

From that post:

Despite much of the media fervor over a financial mania, or Housing Bubble, there is no end to the number of tv shows describing flipping, people interested in flipping, and general commitment to house flipping.

We even have some here in Aliso Viejo flipping million dollar homes (Bought Aug 2006 for 1M, selling now for 1.1M). Competing with virtually identical homes selling for nearly a quarter of a million dollars less…in the same neighborhood. Can you tell which is which?

The fever pitch of late 2006 left some people unable to contain themselves from overpaying for a property and embarking on a lark of flipping a perfectly decent house. After putting in the pergraniteel accoutrements, they placed it back on the market for 250K more with the attempt to sell it to some unsuspecting noob.

Unfortunately, they overpaid and therefore couldn’t cut the price when needed.

At the time, I presented 2 nearly identical homes listed for 1.1M and 875K and asked readers if they could point out the more expensive one. In excellent form, Rob Dawg responded:

The first picture is the expensive house; 4, count ‘em four palm trees. Obvious.

This was the 1.1M listed house:

1100K

Recently, I came across a new listing (nearly 1.5 years later) that looked suspiciously familiar. I had to check it out. Look similar?

8 Crystal Glen

Before anyone clicks on the link to see the new house price, take a guess on it in the comments. Remember, this was less than 1.5 years ago when people were still flipping houses!

I’ll give you a hint. The seller is already looking at a 250K loss from their purchase price not including any pergraniteel upgrades made to the home, realtors fees, or interest payments made to the bank. Guess the palm trees didn’t help after all.

**Caution, real estate does not always go up

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Video of the Day

Chuck Ponzi February 26th, 2008

Sometimes it just tickles the funny bone.

And, a flashback is always great. Someday, we will see this as an example of how wrong people too close to it can call it:

So Subprime Blows Up; So What, Says Cramer

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It’s the Equity, Stupid

Chuck Ponzi February 25th, 2008

Negative Equity Cartoon

It’s nice to every once in a while hear some sane words coming out of Las Vegas, the playground for gambling Southern Californicators. If any remember, the festering puss-filled housing bubble that overcame Socal in 2004 finally spewed it’s nasty excretions all over the Las Vegas Housing market.

To recall all of the insanity of 2004, keep in mind that they had year-over-year appreciation rates in the 40 and 50% range for several quarters. It was insanity in a bottle. Even today, all it takes is a quick drive down the strip to see the massive malinvestment in residential properties that leaves the Vegas housing market reeling.

The Review Journal gives us some great advice about what to expect based on what the problem is:

We don’t have a mortgage crisis. We don’t have an interest rate crisis. We have an equity crisis,” Murphy said. “Why did people take money out of their home? Because they could. It’s 2008 now and you know why people aren’t taking money out of their home? Because they can’t. That’s why it’s going to be rough sledding for 2008 and when we sit here a year from now, it ain’t gonna be any prettier picture.

Right on time, the knife catchers are lining up to have their throats cut.

Declining home prices bring an upside. Francisco Jimenez was able to buy two condominiums for $105,000 and $111,000, well below the $185,000 median, at separate foreclosure auctions held in December at the Plaza and Lake Las Vegas.

He picked up a third condo at a Feb. 10 auction, paying $140,000 for a 1,200-square-foot unit with attached garage that previously sold for $243,000.

“This is like the stock market. Buy low and sell high,” Jimenez said. “There is opportunity for lower-income people to buy, if they can’t afford $250,000 for a home but they have a job and good credit. It’s a good opportunity for anyone who has the money. I would buy another 10 if I had the money.”

Jimenez has read about the 120,000 new jobs expected to be generated by Strip development over the next few years and believes home prices will be as high or higher by 2010 than they were in 2005 and 2006.

That’s not going to happen until the market burns through an inventory of homes for sale that peaked at about 24,000 last year, roughly half of which are vacant.

Thanks, Francisco. You’re helping out your fellow man by creating comps that others can use in future negotiations. With the credit markets set to worsen over the coming year, and with the bulk of rate resets still coming up in the next year, you’re sure to eat your words many times over. I have heard it’s not as tasty as ramen, but it’ll sure fill you up.

The article is a good read, because, as was expected, it is difficult to appraise properties in a dead, falling market. Good thing they’ve got deep pocketed investors willing to snap them up at near peak prices.

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Speech May Not Be Free; But the Truth will Set You

Chuck Ponzi February 23rd, 2008

14160 Bryce Point Poway

I had viewed this property for one of my “Happy Birthday Socal” posts but because of the age of the listing, I considered it too stale.

BMIT has been slapped threatened with a frivilous lawsuit regarding posting public facts about a property in NOD status. Here is the gist of the information below. If someone attempts douchebaggery on my site by threats of a lawsuit… well, go ahead.

Free speech is protected in my America:

14160 BRYCE POINT, Poway, CA 92064
4 beds, 5.5 baths, 7,716 sq ft on 1.3 acres
05/2005: purchased for $3.42 million
06/2007: listed on MLS for $3.295 million
Price Reduced: 08/23/07 — $3,295,000 to $2,995,000
Price Reduced: 01/08/08 — $2,995,000 to $2,895,000
Price Increased: 01/10/08 — $2,895,000 to $2,995,000
Price Reduced: 01/10/08 — $2,995,000 to $2,895,000
02/04/2008: NOD filed.
02/21/2008: 247 days on market and over $500,000 discount from almost 3 years ago and still no sale.

If you’d like to preview the property and catch your own falling knife, here’s an online tour.

Coincidentally, I wonder if the bars on the window/door are there to keep people in or out?

PS, Thanks goes to:

Refin

Foreclosure.com

San Diego County Treasurer

for public information freely available.

**Caution, real estate does not always go up.

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Chuck Ponzi Law of Unintended Consequences III

Chuck Ponzi February 22nd, 2008

The Chuck Ponzi Law of Unintended Consequences is alive and in full force. I had to whip it out another time when Congress started considering the subprime rate freezes. And now, it rears it ugly head again and I am forced to once again remind people how “helping” most often ends up just hurting people.

Remember the original rule:

If there is any chance that someone can get bailed out by someone else, they will, and you will have to pay for it from your own pocket.

I had to later add:

while you may need to pay for it, anything other than letting the market deal with it efficiently will likely crash it anyway

This time, I’ll have to add the following:

And messing with it will make it crash harder than if you had just kept your stupid nosy butt out of it.

and that’s how I can frame the message to those reading the MSNBC article about “saving” people from their underwater houses.

The current plan to “save” homedebtors is to “forgive” the amount that borrowers are underwater. Meanwhile, the Jeffrey Birnbaum seems to take the tack that we should be poopooing on the stupid lenders for lending that amount in the first place. Naturally, banks are fighting it. In the short run, this “solution” becomes their problem. Unfortunately, in the long run, it becomes everyone’s problem.

The legislation would allow bankruptcy judges for the first time to alter the terms of mortgages for primary residences. Under the proposal, borrowers could declare bankruptcy, and a judge would be able to reduce the amount they owe as part of resolving their debts.

There are at least 2 significant problems with this solution.

1. There is a moral component to paying back what you owe. It is supremely unfair to prudent citizens when gamblers and speculators are saved from their own poor decisions. But, it goes further than that; this bailout encourages more risk taking and gambling – a term referred to as moral hazard. The fear is that open risk taking can create systemic risk that at some later date cannot be bailed out; the captains must go down with the ship.

2. The other is the physics of a forgiveness. Like Newton’s third law of physics, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If Banks believe that they can lose up to 20 or 30% of the value of a home, they will begin to require borrowers to “self insure” by raising collateral requirements to mitigate their new risk. They will also likely offset the risk through higher risk spreads translating to substantially higher rates with stricter requirements for credit worthiness.

Consider who this is attempting to help:

The Democrats and their allies see the plan as an antidote to the recent mortgage crisis, especially among low-income borrowers with subprime loans. The legislation would prevent as many as 600,000 homeowners from being thrown into foreclosure, its advocates say.

The poor? Who would least likely be able to handle an increase in the collateral requirements and interest rates set forth for the purchase of a home? My belief is that if this law is passed, it will severely deepen the housing crisis. Indeed, this will likely make the housing problems a super-crisis; akin to raising interest rates in a deflationary environment. This would mean not only that we would be erasing all of the gains of the bubble, but likely much, much more. If first-time buyers were required to save 20% collateral again, it would literally shut down the first-time homebuyers in Southern California. It would not return to the existing levels for perhaps another generation as the system cleanses itself. All of the increased savings would have a positive effect of actual savings, but it would create a severe recession since consumers would need to retrench and cut off discretionary spending. We could easily see homeownership rates erode by 10% or more over the coming decade of turmoil.

This “solution” is quite possibly the worst kind of consequence in itself. It will crash housing markets in high-priced locales and deepen the coming recession throughout the country. I’m a fan of just letting the markets right themselves and sort out the mess itself. Any kind of well intentioned tinkering will only make the problem worse. The time to act is past and cannot be recaptured. The right time to fix the problem was to prevent it in the first place.

Unless the US Government wants to become the lender of last resort (see the discussion of systemic risk) and to personally insure low collateralized mortgages in an inflated market, there is no way this legislation cannot wipe out innovative lending. All of the lending and borrowing participants will have been crowded out by risk aversion.

Let’s hope that our government is aware enough to see what this would do and kill this legislation before it becomes a reality.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m no banksters apologist. They are greedy, self-serving, and destructive. Their moral compass is broken and their money guides their actions. Congress, unfortunately are worse. They work with a corrupt moral compass and other people’s money.

Here’s hoping that if Congress can’t pull their heads out of their collective asses that President Bush has enough sense to wield the necessary veto rights. The very civil liberties of property rights must be protected; both for individual citizens and corporations. Once we take it from one class, we can take it from others; it’s only a matter of time before we find a reason to.

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War on the Middle Class

Chuck Ponzi February 21st, 2008

“That was really just a bubble. Now that we see that the whole bubble has burst, we see really that the economy was hollow to its core.”

David Madland, Center for American Progress

Thanks Housing Panic for the video.

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Quote of the Day – 2-20-2008

Chuck Ponzi February 20th, 2008

All the way from Connecticut.

Some owners want their homes to be assessed at a higher rate because that could increase the asking price if they sell, Nadeau said.

“Hopefully, people want to see their property values increase because that’s why we buy homes in the first place,” she said.

It is any wonder why we saw people falling over themselves to “invest” in a use asset during the bubble?  The value of a property comes from the discounted cash flows of a property to its substitute (rent).  This bubble has everyone still out of whack on why homes are to be bought.  In the long run, they should be cheaper than rent.

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New Layout

Chuck Ponzi February 12th, 2008

What’s the feedback.  Love it Hate it?

Be specific.  Font size, colors, etc.

I personally like it… better readability.

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Conforming Loan Limit Increase – Why not?

Chuck Ponzi February 4th, 2008

There is a lot being tossed around about the stimulus package that is being shuttled through the house and senate. One of the proposed amendments is the slackening of the conforming limits, especially in an area of high housing prices. Most other bubble bloggers have stood against this, dismissing it as another affordability enhancing intended vehicle that will only keep prices above what a normal buyer should be able to afford. I’m going to break from that camp for the following reasons:

1. I feel that a seemingly arbitrary limit of access to credit imposed based on a nationwide median price is unfitting for high-cost and high-income regional areas.

2. Affordability is the issue, and indeed, I feel it should be addressed. I would rather see a local median-income based payment cap, along with mandated dti (debt to income) ratios.

3. Even by expanding the current set of available products won’t help the already under water homeowners, nor does it change the economics of the rent/buy equation.  Basically, it has little or no impact to the bubble.  If you can rent long-term in a high-priced area, why shouldn’t you have access to credit?

4.  The bubble was created by speculation and “affordability products”.  While nothing occurs in a vacuum, the bubble is not going to be reinflated without new affordability products and lax lending standards; something that is not going to happen in this environment.

5.  Indeed, I believe that like many speculators caught up in the positive frenzy of the real estate market, it is easy to be caught up in the pessimistic view as it tumbles.  One sign of the bottom is when everyone agrees that the product is no longer worthy of investment, and to be shunned.  We still have a long way to go, but there is no reason to overblow the risks and rewards.

In the end, creating more access to credit does not translate into overpriced homes.  Most of the problems created have already been solved in the debt market; a return to sane underwriting is already underway.  The pricing of housing is inconceivably out of whack, but will plummet for the next 2 or 3 years as the imbalances are worked out.

Besides, the current jumbo market is in disarray, adding sane underwriting to that market while not increasing the GSE’s limits can provide competitive air to the otherwise broken market.

This is not to say that it won’t have its faults… with a limited amount of funding going on, the GSEs will likely need to ration the available funds.  Price, however, is most often the best rationing device one can create.  Any way you look at it, the bubble has burst, nothing will change that.  In case you haven’t noticed, I’m not left-leaning that I believe everyone should be able to afford a house.  For many people, they have no propensity to be natural caretakers for an asset as costly and long-term as owning real estate.  Many of those people are already in homes they can barely afford, or worse, dashing their credit on the rocks of the “American Dream”; which up until 30 years ago was about starting their own business and succeeding financially, not owning a home.  Consider how far we have strayed from the path of free enterprise.

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