Comments on: The bidding of the leaders… http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html Southern California is Experiencing a Real Estate Bubble like never before Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:16:46 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Larissa Rubijevsky http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94325 Larissa Rubijevsky Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:52:26 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94325 I completely agree with you that we were lied to and our government led us astray. But I feel we all must realize the fact that as a country as a whole Americans have always tried to live above their means and own many things they just couldn't afford. J Rubijevsky http://www.pvview4u.com/ I completely agree with you that we were lied to and our government led us astray. But I feel we all must realize the fact that as a country as a whole Americans have always tried to live above their means and own many things they just couldn’t afford.

J Rubijevsky

http://www.pvview4u.com/

]]> By: Ariel http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94320 Ariel Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:52:11 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94320 "Google" is indeed magical! “Google” is indeed magical!

]]> By: beebs http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94319 beebs Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:50:46 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94319 “We [Göring and Gilbert] got around to the subject of war again and I [Gilbert] said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction. * Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars. Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” – In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946) “We [Göring and Gilbert] got around to the subject of war again and I [Gilbert] said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

* Göring: Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

– In an interview with Gilbert in Göring’s jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946)

]]> By: Virgil http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94311 Virgil Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:43:04 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94311 so should we assume now that mediocrity is queen? because whenever you know an answer you are suspected of "google-ing" it? I guess than, the sad thing is not that now many people than ever know who said it but ignore what was said. Vietnam, Iraq.. are just few examples. Now national financial meltdown... what's next? Martians? so should we assume now that mediocrity is queen? because whenever you know an answer you are suspected of “google-ing” it?
I guess than, the sad thing is not that now many people than ever know who said it but ignore what was said. Vietnam, Iraq.. are just few examples. Now national financial meltdown… what’s next? Martians?

]]> By: Chuck Ponzi http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94310 Chuck Ponzi Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:55:00 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94310 Really? What is this "google" you speak of? I've never come across it. This must be a magical device, indeed. Really? What is this “google” you speak of?

I’ve never come across it.

This must be a magical device, indeed.

]]> By: BSinOside http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94308 BSinOside Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:04:02 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94308 I think Chuck's point was it would be fun <i>'if you knew the answer without googling it' </i> Yeah, I think just about anyone in the world with a computer is aware of google. If not, they can google it :) I think Chuck’s point was it would be fun ‘if you knew the answer without googling it’

Yeah, I think just about anyone in the world with a computer is aware of google. If not, they can google it :)

]]> By: Ariel http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94305 Ariel Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:39:04 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94305 It's easy to find out who said what and when. Just Google it. Here's the reference. <a href="http://thinkexist.com/quotation/naturally_the_common_people_don-t_want_war/339098.html"</a> After all and everything I believe that no matter what policy is taken by the rulers or the governments, if there's any sufferer, it's always the common people. I wish the world to change. It’s easy to find out who said what and when. Just Google it. Here’s the reference. <a href="http://thinkexist.com/quotatio.....html"

After all and everything I believe that no matter what policy is taken by the rulers or the governments, if there’s any sufferer, it’s always the common people. I wish the world to change.

]]> By: TreeHouseForRent http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94303 TreeHouseForRent Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:09:15 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94303 During the N trials. Too bad the fat boy didn't have the guts to do "the job" himself. During the N trials. Too bad the fat boy didn’t have the guts to do “the job” himself.

]]> By: Virgil http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94302 Virgil Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:06:03 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94302 I don't think it's quite correct to say that they "stooped to the tactics of fascists" - although even this is a bit a mistake because Goering was a nazi-ist, that is a bit different from a fascist (see Mussolini or Franco) but I understand the idea. The issue is that I think, as Goering said it, every political power is doing it more or less, to quote Machiavelli, the end justify the means... . And when you have political power the end is verrry important... for you. I don’t think it’s quite correct to say that they “stooped to the tactics of fascists” – although even this is a bit a mistake because Goering was a nazi-ist, that is a bit different from a fascist (see Mussolini or Franco) but I understand the idea. The issue is that I think, as Goering said it, every political power is doing it more or less, to quote Machiavelli, the end justify the means… . And when you have political power the end is verrry important… for you.

]]> By: Virgil http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94301 Virgil Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:01:04 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94301 ... during the Nuremberg Trials that took place in Germany from 1945 to 1946. … during the Nuremberg Trials that took place in Germany from 1945 to 1946.

]]> By: Chuck Ponzi http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94300 Chuck Ponzi Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:58:28 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94300 Sad to see that our country's leadership has stooped to the tactics of fascists. Sad. Sad to see that our country’s leadership has stooped to the tactics of fascists. Sad.

]]> By: tc http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/01/the-bidding-of-the-leaders.html/comment-page-1#comment-94299 tc Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:09:11 +0000 http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=870#comment-94299 hermann goering hermann goering

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