<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>Southern California Real Estate Bubble Crash Blog &#187; Psychology</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.socalbubble.com/category/psychology/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.socalbubble.com</link>
	<description>Southern California is Experiencing a Real Estate Bubble like never before</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:16:25 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Buying A House</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/09/buying-a-house.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/09/buying-a-house.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Foreclosures]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Moving]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=979</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[As readers have no doubt noticed, my posting has become more and more erratic and eventually fallen off of a cliff. Part of that is because my professional life has come to the forefront since it is firing on all cylinders; advancements in that area come with a price tag, and the other part is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As readers have no doubt noticed, my posting has become more and more erratic and eventually fallen off of a cliff.</p>
<p>Part of that is because my professional life has come to the forefront since it is firing on all cylinders; advancements in that area come with a price tag, and the other part is because I have been diligently seeking a home for my family.  With a third addition to our family, we have decided that while there is still a great deal of danger in the housing market, we have decided to purchase a home.  Make no mistake, I am not advocating buying a house at the present time for financial reasons, I think we have a lot of malaise at the present time, but after all is told, it is about the same price as renting, since interest rates are very low.  I intend to occupy the house for a long period of time, making my entry point less important to my longer-term emotional and psychological well being of my family.</p>
<p>If anyone wondered, yes the house is a foreclosure, and yes it requires a lot of work.  I highly recommend having a good agent in your corner, since negotiating without one doesn&#8217;t strengthen your position, and my agent, Brad Davidson offers a rebate of a portion of his commission to offset your efforts in finding the house.  If you&#8217;re in the market, I recommend contacting him at <a href="http://wehelpubuy.com/">WeHelpUBuy Realty</a>.  He&#8217;s a good friend and excellent agent.</p>
<p>In the end, we waited over 6 years before becoming homeowners again, we found that the emotional decision to buy a home is quite powerful for people that have already owned; it was for us.</p>
<p>Feel free to ask any questions that you might have in the comments; I will be as honest as I can, keeping my identity private.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2010/09/buying-a-house.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>44</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Schwarzenegger to California: Day of Reckoning</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/06/schwarzenegger-to-california-day-of-reckoning.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/06/schwarzenegger-to-california-day-of-reckoning.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Deflation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Panic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SoCal]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unemployment]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=662</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I love it when a plan comes together &#8211; A-Team&#8217;s Hannibal Arnold Schwarzenegger has fired off his assessment of where California is today.  In short, we&#8217;re screwed. Declaring that &#8220;California&#8217;s day of reckoning is here,&#8221; Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said today the state should turn its dire budget straits into an opportunity to make government more [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I love it when a plan comes together &#8211; A-Team&#8217;s Hannibal</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/schwarzenegger.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-663" style="margin: 10px;" title="Schwarzenegger to California: Day of Reckoning" src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/schwarzenegger-237x300.jpg" alt="Schwarzenegger to California: Day of Reckoning" width="237" height="300" /></a>Arnold Schwarzenegger has <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/1912268.html">fired off his assessment of where California is</a> today.  In short, we&#8217;re screwed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Declaring that &#8220;California&#8217;s day of reckoning is here,&#8221; Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said today the state should turn its dire budget straits into an opportunity to make government more efficient.</p>
<p>Speaking to a rare mid-year joint session of the Legislature and other constitutional officers, Schwarzenegger acknowledged the billions of dollars in spending cuts he has proposed to close a $24.3 billion hole in the budget will be devastating to millions of Californians.</p>
<p>&#8220;People come up to me all the time, pleading &#8216;governor, please don&#8217;t cut my program,&#8217;&#8221; he said. &#8220;They tell me how the cuts will affect them and their loved ones. I see the pain in their eyes and hear the fear in their voice. It&#8217;s an awful feeling. But we have no choice.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our wallet is empty. Our bank is closed. Our credit is dried up.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s still some hope:  Here&#8217;s where the cuts are coming from:</p>
<blockquote><p>Schwarzenegger has proposed a plan that relies partially on accounting maneuvers and borrowing funds from coming fiscal years, but mainly on deep cuts in nearly every program funded by state government.</p>
<p>Those range from cutting spending on K-12 schools, community colleges, the University of California; releasing some non-violent prisoners a year early; cutting pay for most state workers and laying off others; closing 80 percent of the state&#8217;s parks, and wiping out or paring back on health and social service programs for California&#8217;s neediest residents.</p></blockquote>
<p>California is broken and needs to be fixed to keep people here.  Maybe that&#8217;s not what we want.  Growth for growth&#8217;s sake has proven to be an untenable solution for us.  While we mourn the loss of programs, let us be happy for the new found frugality and self-sufficiency.  Maybe some day we can save up in the fat years to prepare for the lean years.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/06/schwarzenegger-to-california-day-of-reckoning.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Obama, please bail this man out!</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/02/obama-please-bail-this-man-out.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/02/obama-please-bail-this-man-out.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Speculation]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=526</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GFxnTehraIo&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GFxnTehraIo&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/02/obama-please-bail-this-man-out.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>A look back at one of our favorite cheerleaders</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/01/a-look-back-at-one-of-our-favorite-cheerleaders.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/01/a-look-back-at-one-of-our-favorite-cheerleaders.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Contrary Indicators]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Denial]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Investing]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Lizard Brain]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Mean Reversion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/?p=497</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Some of you who are long time readers of this blog and other bubble blogs remember the zeitgest of mid-2006.  There was a lot of angst in the air about what was happening with the residential housing market, and quite a few financial idiots posting on and on ad nauseum about how housing was a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you who are long time readers of this blog and other bubble blogs remember the zeitgest of mid-2006.  There was a lot of angst in the air about what was happening with the residential housing market, and quite a few financial idiots posting on and on ad nauseum about how housing was a fantastic investment and how you should leverage yourself up to the hilt just to get in.  One of my favorite examples was Darren Mead of Victory Lending.  Yes, the homeless boy turned bodybuilder, turned finance expert.  Perhaps it would be best to turn to one of his gems of wisdom, quoted on Yahoo&#8217;s answer site in response to a user question posted in July 2006.  Yes, the height of the bubble:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060717182433AAGpO8s">Is now a good time to buy a new home? i would be a first time home buyer and i have heard the market is bad.?</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Darren gave a long-winded answer:</p>
<blockquote><p>Congratulations of thinking of buying a new home.</p>
<p>Is there a &#8220;bubble&#8221;? The simple answer is &#8220;no&#8221;. Even if interest rates move a bit higher, it won&#8217;t be enough to cause a nationwide slide in home prices. The key to a healthy housing market is the job market. If the payment on a new home might be slightly higher due to increased interest rates, it generally won&#8217;t stop someone from purchasing the home of their dreams&#8230;but if they feel their job is in jeopardy, it might be enough to stop them from making a move. So with the currently low levels of unemployment and the beefy gains in job creations, it looks like the housing market will remain vibrant. Although it will be difficult to sustain the double-digit gains that much of the country has seen, price declines are highly unlikely. Expect a more moderate rate of appreciation, perhaps closer to the historical 6-7% range, which is still very good.</p></blockquote>
<p>The post goes on for nearly 2 more pages of bubblespeak.  It&#8217;s an interesting read on what was going on at the time.   The most choice example:</p>
<blockquote><p>Don&#8217;t be victimized by the bubble hype. Buying a home is a big step, but it is almost always one in the right direction.</p></blockquote>
<p>Darren was also quoted on <a href="http://housingdoom.com/2006/10/12/not-in-debt-to-your-eyeballs/">housing doom</a> and felt required to issue a long-winded discussion of the merits of buying a house, leveraging it to the hilt and other such nonsense.  I also at the time replied (when I was writing under the pseudonym John Doe) to his crazy thoughts:</p>
<div class="comment-text">
<blockquote><p>Hello Everyone -</p>
<p>My name is Darren Meade, and I’ve noted you have chosen to comment on a few artciles I’ve written.</p>
<p>First the advice is that the great appreciation in Real Estate has cooled. Given a moderate decline of appreciation across the country, now might be the time to reposition your equity.</p>
<p>There’s an excellent book on some repositioning strategies called ‘Missed Fortune 101′ by Doug Andrews.</p>
<p>I believe that everyone should benefit and earn money in the same manner the banks operate on the principleof arbitrage.</p>
<p>This of course depends on your overall financial plan. Often people do not realize or think about the simple fact that the largest financial asset they have is their home.</p>
<p>It is my belief that you should manage this asset in an overall financial plan. In regards to Home Equity Lines of Credit, I actually do not favor those as I believe the cost is to high.</p>
<p>Additionally, most HELOC’s can be canceled by the Bank at anytime. Many of my clients in<br />
New Orleans found this out after Katrina. Many thought they planned ahead, but the notes were canceled and they had to borrower at an even higher interest rate.</p>
<p>I note John Doe said :</p>
<p>“When I sold my L.A. home in 04, an acquaintance of mine was adamant that I should not sell it, just leverage every last penny of it (basically the same strategy). [separated quote for clarity, JM]Darren: Actually this is not the same strategy. I’m advising people who have made a good amount of appreciation in their home, to take that money out since home prices declined Nationally. I suggest this because as a country we have the worst savings rate. Housing Inventory has also increased, some people like yourself cannot afford to pay the mortgage on their home if they try to rent it. They may then try to sell, but in many markets home sit for 4-6 months. The Realtors often do not disclose such. Desperate, I then receive calls where people now want to try and refinance. However because the home is listed for sale, many of the lenders will not allow them to refinance. Then these poor people wind up having to get a hard money loan.</p>
<p>When I told him that housing prices might go down, he told me not to worry, that would be the bank’s problem. [small fix, JM] I observed that I couldn’t cover the monthly nut with the rent on the place if I rented it. He said, no worry, just let the bank take it back, you now have your “equity”.”</p>
<p>Darren: Between 04-06 even with the decline, in my local market you would have made a 38% appreciation on your home. I am sorry you could not afford to hold on long enough to make that profit. I’d ask though, what other investment do you feel will provide a safer yield than Real Estate?</p>
<p>Also, you gain that appreciation figure based on the value of the home. Often you have secured this investment with 10-20% of the value of the home.</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Darren Meade</p></blockquote>
</div>
<p>I kinda wish we had a behind the music rendition of where is he now?</p>
<p>Anything worth saying to Darren after the bubble popped?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2009/01/a-look-back-at-one-of-our-favorite-cheerleaders.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Remember, it&#8217;s a wonderful life</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/07/remember-its-a-wonderful-life.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/07/remember-its-a-wonderful-life.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Panic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/07/remember-its-a-wonderful-life.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Even with all of the headlines out there, and with pretty much everything looking as black as it has been for a long time&#8230; we saw this coming, and we can see what&#8217;s on the other side. It&#8217;s always blackest before the light. I don&#8217;t know exactly when the panic will end, but it always [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even with all of the headlines out there, and with pretty much everything looking as black as it has been for a long time&#8230; we saw this coming, and we can see what&#8217;s on the other side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always blackest before the light.  I don&#8217;t know exactly when the panic will end, but it always does, just like the euphoric mania that preceded it.</p>
<p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MJJN9qwhkkE&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MJJN9qwhkkE&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/07/remember-its-a-wonderful-life.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Profiteers of Housing Crisis: Opportunistic Homedebtors and CEOs</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/05/profiteers-of-housing-crisis-opportunistic-homedebtors-and-ceos.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/05/profiteers-of-housing-crisis-opportunistic-homedebtors-and-ceos.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Housing Crash]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Speculation]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/05/profiteers-of-housing-crisis-opportunistic-homedebtors-and-ceos.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This is a travesty. No mortgage bailout! None at all! Not to striving homeowners, not to the insanely-paid CEOs. Risk has penalties too. Here&#8217;s our typical homeowners: Here&#8217;s the problem with CEOs:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a travesty.</p>
<p>No mortgage bailout!  None at all!  Not to striving homeowners, not to the insanely-paid CEOs.  Risk has penalties too.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s our typical homeowners:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/U8aWXIW7rFM&#038;hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/U8aWXIW7rFM&#038;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the problem with CEOs:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gnjDEECp-VA&#038;hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gnjDEECp-VA&#038;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2008/05/profiteers-of-housing-crisis-opportunistic-homedebtors-and-ceos.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Who Am I?</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/11/who-am-i.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/11/who-am-i.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SoCal]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/11/who-am-i.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[While much more than a philosophical question, the answer and what you say more often reflects not just who you are, but the character you carry with you. Since I moved my blog over from Blogspot, I have wanted to put pen to paper and give just enough background on the author of the blog [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While much more than a philosophical question, the answer and what you say more often reflects not just who you are, but the character you carry with you.</p>
<p>Since I moved my blog over from Blogspot, I have wanted to put pen to paper and give just enough background on the author of the blog to provide some dangerous information, but not enough to provide enough clues for any given person to guess who I am.  In reality, there are only a couple of people who know who I am as a real person, and I&#8217;m just fine with that.  I never intended the blog to be a springboard into fame, nor was I trying to make a business out of it (trust me, the pitiful revenue the blog generates wouldn&#8217;t provide more than an occasional lollipop it seems in Southern California.)</p>
<p><strong>About Me</strong></p>
<p>Well, my story is too long for a blog entry.  I didn&#8217;t originate in Southern California, but rather the midwest, though I haven&#8217;t lived there for more than 15 years.  I have lived in SoCal much of my adult life (after University studies), and have lived in North LA County, Central LA County, San Diego, and Orange County where I currently reside with my wife and 2 kids.  I studied Accounting and Information Systems and have a Bachelor&#8217;s Degree from one of the top schools in the US (can&#8217;t give too many details).  I also earned an MBA since being in California in the past few years.  I am in my 30&#8242;s and have also lived in diverse places such as Germany, DC, Utah, and Hawaii and I speak 2 languages fluently  This has given me a unique perspective on language and how it reflects and changes our attitudes about life and surroundings; a window into our social makeup.</p>
<p>My wife&#8230; I don&#8217;t talk about her much, but it only seems fitting to give her a worthy run through.  She is the most important person in my life, and so therefore deserves a place on this blog; not in name, but because she has supported me in all that I have done, even sacrificing personal beliefs and time for our family&#8217;s better good.  My wife grew up in the intermountain west, and holds a Master&#8217;s Degree as.  She speaks 2 languages fluently as well (not the same as mine, but she is teaching me bits and pieces of hers) and is an entrepreneur as well as stay at home mom.  She truly is amazing; I got very lucky.  She has lived in all of the same places in California that I have.</p>
<p>With that said, I started thinking about writing a blog in early 2004, although it took me nearly a year to put that plan into conception.  In truth, I thought homes were overpriced already in late 2002 and early 2003.  By mid 2004, it had become unbearable, and since I was itching to move onto another company, I convinced my wife in the Summer of 2004 that housing was overvalued and we had better sell our place; even before I had another job.  Our place sold in exactly 3 days for a couple percent over asking price, and more than double what I had paid for it a few years earlier.  It was insane.  We even had one bid more than 20k above that, but at 100% financing.    We chose the more prudent buyer because we feared not closing in time.  It&#8217;s funny in hindsight.  Housing Bubbles take years to pop.</p>
<p>Over the next 6 months, we resituated ourselves, moving closer to LA and taking a job in Beverly Hills.  It was a nice move, but we both knew it was only temporary.  It was during this time that I first started the socalbubble.blogspot.com blog.  My primary inspiration was Rich Toscano, of www.piggington.com fame.  I had no desire to be known, and only told a few people about the blog.  I was fine to be anonymous, because, frankly, real estate had become a religion to most of the people we knew.  It was as if I was attempting to hoist their savior up on a cross when I dared to even consider that housing had ever fallen in value in the past, or that it could ever fall in the future.  &#8220;At worst,&#8221; one friend assured me, &#8220;it will only go up by 10% per year.  That would be a terrible year.&#8221;  Conceding defeat of trying to warn those close to me, and finding that noone wanted to know the inconvenient truth, I started a blog to just spill out my feelings and try to put things in context in my life.  At first, the only visitors were there to ridicule me.  Some sent me harassing emails, some just quietly told me how stupid I was and left.  Either way, it seemed that there were only a few out there who would believe that there was a bubble, or that it would ever burst.  I read Patrick.net, Piggington, and The Housing Bubble Blog daily and scoured news stories to try to piece together what would happen; I read historical economics treatises; I pored over more historical economic data than I care to admit.  I was convinced, but noone else was.  At times, I thought I might be going crazy myself.  Noone I met would agree with what I thought was self-evident.  Most people who should have known better just ignored what was going on.</p>
<p>It only took time.  I changed my name from John Doe (my old screen name) to Chuck Ponzi when I moved to my own hosting and domain, to pay homage to the man who defined our current economic system (with stamps, no less).</p>
<p>Still, this was supposed to be about me.</p>
<p>What lies ahead for Chuck Ponzi?  Even I don&#8217;t know.  Will I buy again in Southern California?  Who knows?; I may move before that happens, but an opportunity may present itself in the future too.  Either way, moving has been both about good and bad.  While many of the families in our age group that we have known in SoCal have since moved out of state or are planning to do so in the next year, we have remained noncommital to our future as Californicators.</p>
<p>I guess we represent much of what we thought California was, middle class families committed to our children&#8217;s future and our own personal responsibility.  It is perhaps fitting that we are a dying breed here in California.  Even if we leave, in a few years, there will be another group of people ready to take our place.  I hope them much more success than we have had in living the American Dream.  We have found that the price for that dream was much more than we were willing to give.  And, for many trying to buy it; have found that it was much more a personal nightmare than the dream they (with their commissioned agent and loan broker) dreamt of.  I could in some ways feel justified that I did what I could to warn, but rather, I feel saddened that most had no idea what was about to happen.  Sometimes, when I&#8217;m feeling down, I walk around my neighborhood and see the Hummers, Mercedes and Lexuses, and then I&#8217;m not sad anymore.  At least everyone got awesome rides.</p>
<p>So, by definition, who am I?</p>
<p>I am Chuck Ponzi.  Welcome to Southern California.</p>
<p>My contact information can be found <a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/about/">here</a>.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/11/who-am-i.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>25</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Understatement of The Month</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/10/understatement-of-the-month.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/10/understatement-of-the-month.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Denial]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/10/understatement-of-the-month.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This one has some great value to it. This is perhaps a perfect example of courage in the face of adversity. Others might call it delusional denial. From the Marin Independent Journal (Marinite, you make us proud down here in Socal, never have I before seen this kind of lunacy. I think even Gary Watts [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/understatement.jpg" title="Understatement"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/understatement.jpg" title="Understatement" alt="Understatement" align="left" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="225" /></a>This one has some great value to it.</p>
<p>This is perhaps a perfect example of courage in the face of adversity.</p>
<p>Others might call it delusional denial.</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_7275014">Marin Independent Journal</a> (Marinite, you make us proud down here in Socal, never have I before seen this kind of lunacy.  I think even Gary Watts would concede in the face of these facts)</p>
<blockquote><p><span id="marin_default"> Local homes sales dropped 77 percent last month, Thayer said. &#8220;The housing market has slowed down,&#8221; she said.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Gee&#8230; ya think?</p>
<p>Mostly, I wonder if the author had to stifle a chuckle while writing that.</p>
<p>If 77 percent of sales evaporated&#8230; I&#8217;d say it hit a brick wall and it&#8217;s brains are splattered on the pavement&#8230; we&#8217;ll all be lucky if we make it out alive.</p>
<p>People often ask me if I have one regret about blogging on the housing bubble.  I do.  It&#8217;s having missed the opportunity to document more of the amazingly delusional comments people have made over the past 3 years.  I would have liked to refer back to them now that the koolaid is running out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/10/understatement-of-the-month.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>&#8220;Subprime Implosion&#8221; the word of the Decade</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/subprime-implosion-the-word-of-the-decade.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/subprime-implosion-the-word-of-the-decade.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Housing Crash]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Speculation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SubPrime]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/subprime-implosion-the-word-of-the-decade.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Housing bubble apologists often dismissed bubble believers&#8217; concerns out of hand with the following party line: Southern California&#8217;s prices only fell last time due to substantial job losses due to the dislocation of the defense industry. (no matter that the Eastern Seaboard had a similarly-timed slide and did not attribute it to the same) Such [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gandaflandbalrogpic.JPG" title="Balrog"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gandaflandbalrogpic.JPG" title="Balrog"><img vspace="10" align="top" width="400" src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gandaflandbalrogpic.JPG" hspace="10" alt="Balrog" height="250" style="width: 400px; height: 250px" title="Balrog" /></a></p>
<p>Housing bubble apologists often dismissed bubble believers&#8217; concerns out of hand with the following party line: Southern California&#8217;s prices only fell last time due to substantial job losses due to the dislocation of the defense industry. (no matter that the Eastern Seaboard had a similarly-timed slide and did not attribute it to the same) Such job losses cannot happen again; the job market is too strong, diversified, and recession proof.</p>
<p>In a number of past posts, I have connected the dots related to current job strength, even while realizing that it was not just the number of jobs, but in particular, the type of jobs that matters when it comes to affordability. Indeed, it is important that the prices of houses are not supported by those that already live in an area, but rather by those who are coming to an area. On the flipside, as an area becomes too expensive, those unable, unwilling to remain, or tempted by their good fortune will sell to realize their gain and move elsewhere. We have already seen San Diego County&#8217;s negative growth rate (in spite of a substantially increased housing stock). These moves happen slowly, and reacclimating boiled frogs to lukewarm pots makes them believe they are actually in frigid arctic waters.</p>
<p>What the mainstream media failed terribly to see was that it is exactly the excesses created during the bubble that must be punished in a downturn. First, it was the mantra that Real estate never goes down. Then, it was a &#8220;soft patch&#8221;. Later, a &#8220;Soft Landing&#8221;. Then &#8220;A souffle&#8217;&#8221;. All of those jobs due to lending and construction that have paved the way to even higher housing prices have now turned into a vicious downcycle. Remember that the &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQ--3juteM">Zombie Financial Media Awareness Week</a>&#8221; is just a few weeks away. Why is it that the media has no memory that bubble blogs were appearing in early to mid 2005, warning of excesses in lending and finance?</p>
<p>Perhaps just as appropriately, one would ask, why are their virtual undead still haunting the pages of major news outlets. Featured writers, no less, that give denial a new face. It might be valuable to read what Wikipedia has to say about denial before visting one of our local train wrecks.</p>
<p>from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial">Wikipedia</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Denial is a defense mechanism in which a person is faced with a fact that is too painful to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether (simple denial), admit the fact but deny its seriousness (minimisation) or admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility (transference). The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction.</p></blockquote>
<p>After reading that, you might be able to find perhaps even a bit of humor in a piece written by our own lovable village dolt based out of San Diego, George Chamberlain just <a href="http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/12/business/chamberlin/16_00_348_11_07.txt">last week</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me begin by passing along my congratulations to the many people who are celebrating the current situation in the housing market. In concert with much of the national and local media, they have been able to artificially construct something that has never &#8212;- I repeat, never &#8212;- been done before: drive down housing prices at a time when unemployment is low, the economy is booming and consumer confidence is approaching record highs.</p>
<p>A column I wrote about a year ago on the housing market triggered more hate mail than any other topic that I have discussed. I needed to check underneath my car and use a food taster for a couple of weeks after I suggested that the situation was dramatically overstated.</p></blockquote>
<p>That this level of denial exists, is not prima facie a surprise. That a person so disconnected from reality, even after it is made known to the world can get published can only mean 2 things. Either the editor couldn&#8217;t care less about what is being written, or is in similar denial. Not once does the discussion turn to the primary driver of housing prices; job creation. Stagnation can already force prices down with an increasing housing stock; much more with out-migration.</p>
<p>If you read the entire piece, you&#8217;ll see that his article exhibits a number of different defense mechanisms. From minimisation to transference to outright denial. One might wonder if he is addicted to house price appreciation. We sure know many San Diegans are addicted&#8230; and their only fix is through another equity extraction. Wall Street just shut off the spigot, and it&#8217;s very interesting the stages of grief that participants go through as an outsider.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t hard to spot where our problems lied, even a year or 2 ago. Jonathan Lansner was able to identify some time ago that housing related to 17% of Orange County&#8217;s entire job base. Many observers have noted that a healthy balance is between 6% and 12%. Just to bring us to parity with a healthy balance, we would have to increase our unemployment figures by 5% to 11% of the total workforce. Those are depression-level statistics.</p>
<p>As scary and frightening as they may seem, there are some actions that they everyday person should have done in the past 2 years: (and might still be able to pull off before the slide gains even more steam)</p>
<p>1. Eliminate any speculation that is lending or real estate related: sell any properties, refinance historic-low fixed rates, sell homebuilder or financial stocks, mutual funds, and even banks.</p>
<p>2. Housing-recession proof your career. Find a new one, or develop your business plan to excel when downturns happen.</p>
<p>3. Reduce debt, and raise cash or liquid investments. This one will allow you to ride out any temporary storms as well as purchase property in 3 to 5 years from now when they once again return to appropriate levels.</p>
<p>4. Pay off any adjustable debt, hoard cash. Many people are carrying unhealthy levels of debt. While comical, the man riding the lawnmower in debt up to his eyeballs is all too real in America. Don&#8217;t be the person who loses their home to out of control personal expenses.</p>
<p>If George Chamberlain wants positive to come out of this, Southern Californians need to break their cultural pathology and begin to save, invest, and build, rather than consume. Otherwise, there is nothing for us to look forward to. Last time, the scapegoat was the defense industry. This time, it will be the &#8220;Subprime Implosion&#8221;. Years from now, people will attribute the downturn, not with the excesses that led to it (that would mean assigning the blame to ourselves and our human nature), but with the trigger that collapsed the house of cards we had built.</p>
<p>We have met the enemy and he is us.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/subprime-implosion-the-word-of-the-decade.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>32</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Greenspan wasn&#8217;t so dumb; was he lazy?</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/greenspan-wasnt-so-dumb-was-he-lazy.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/greenspan-wasnt-so-dumb-was-he-lazy.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Credit Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Debt]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Lending Standards]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/greenspan-wasnt-so-dumb-was-he-lazy.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The action around MBS&#8217;s and other derivatives related to the housing market reminds me of an often quoted speech given by Alan Greenspan. “This vast increase in the market value of asset claims is in part the indirect result of investors accepting lower compensation for risk. Such an increase in market value is too often [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The action around MBS&#8217;s and other derivatives related to the housing market reminds me of an often quoted speech given by Alan Greenspan.</p>
<blockquote><p>“This vast increase in the market value of asset claims is in part the indirect result of investors accepting lower compensation for risk. Such an increase in market value is too often viewed by market participants as structural and permanent… But what they perceive as newly abundant liquidity can readily disappear. Any onset of increased investor caution elevates risk premiums and, as a consequence, lowers asset values and promotes the liquidation of the debt that supported higher asset prices. This is the reason that history has not dealt kindly with the aftermath of protracted periods of low-risk premiums.”</p></blockquote>
<p>While he didn&#8217;t do enough to prevent asset bubble from forming, at least he understands what the aftermath does.  &#8220;newly abundant liquidity can readily disappear&#8221;.</p>
<p>It reminds me of a post I made back in the heady days of September 2005, <a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/2005/09/greenspans-interesting-clarity.html">Greenspan&#8217;s Interesting Clarity</a>.  Yes, nearly 2 years of blogging ago.</p>
<blockquote><p>Where does this lead us? Well… we’re acting a bit like the japanese in our debt lending by accepting low risk premiums, and the longer this goes on, the greater the risk to all participants, lenders and borrowers. If liquidity were to be suddenly shored up by investors demanding a greater return for thier risk, or if percieved risk were to suddenly jump, borrowing would become much more difficult for buyers. Interest rates will increase accordingly. Even established buyers might not be able to purchase homes due to restricted risk premiums; all of which will only serve to slow the real estate market and put the power of purchasing into well qualified buyers.</p>
<p>It has been my assertion that the housing bubble was caused not by low interest rates, but by excess liquidity that banks could only farm out by lowering lending standards. It was this easy credit that was extended to a whole set of the population that had never before been entrusted with credit; this caused “neverending” demand. Much like college students that max out their first credit card, only to find that the payments exceed their income, many of today’s buyers will be unable to make payments in the future.</p>
<p>Our little “deflationary concern” may soon turn into a financial meltdown since problems tend to spiral: Increases of forced sales trigger lower prices, which triggers lower spending and more foreclosures; lower spending triggers more layoffs; foreclosures trigger financial losses for banks and MBS holders; financial losses triggers less liquidity; less liquidity triggers higher interest rates; which triggers more defaults on ARMs and HELOCs… the list of effects could go on forever. Our economy is increasingly dependent on house price appreciation, but 2 things keep these trees from growing to the sky.<br />
1. Credit has limits, since some risk premium must be attached to borrowing money, and interest must be charged. Investor sentiment is everything here.<br />
2. Even a leveling off will decrease construction jobs that will kick-off the above process, so increasing growth is necessary to keep the merry-go-round going.</p></blockquote>
<p>As you can see, it is easier to predict WHAT is going to happen, opposed to WHEN it is going to happen.  It was surprising to me that the housing boom ended with a consumer-led paring back of purchases, as I had expected the lending environment to tighten considerably before it did.  What this likely means is that while it postphoned the inevitable crash, it will likely only amplify the severity of the downturn.  As they say, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.</p>
<p>However, not trying to be a Monday morning quarterback, but had the FED raised rates twice more as I had hoped they would, they would have had an additional half-point lowering room when the credit event happened.  The fact that they did not either says that they did not understand the extent of the credit market&#8217;s problems and attendant risk mongering, or they simply believed (and perhaps still do) believe that the credit markets can self-correct without affecting unemployment, or currency attractiveness.  It may be that with the weakness exhibited by the currency, Ben B. should likely be raising rates when the world is calling for cutting them.  It&#8217;s always easier to get out in front of the problem than cleaning up after the mess, but when has the Federal reserve done that since Paul Volker?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/08/greenspan-wasnt-so-dumb-was-he-lazy.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Getting It, Some Agents Do</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/04/getting-it-some-agents-do.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/04/getting-it-some-agents-do.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Mean Reversion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[San Diego]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Short Sale]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Speculation]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/04/getting-it-some-agents-do.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[After my last post, one might believe that real estate agents have no other opinion than the mantra of &#8220;housing prices only go up&#8221;. For those ill-informed and those lacking true experience in a down market (or at least studied one out more than attending a Gary Watts cheerleading session), there is little to convince [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After my <a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/04/how-idiots-get-printed.html">last post</a>, one might believe that real estate agents have no other opinion than the mantra of &#8220;housing prices only go up&#8221;.  For those ill-informed and those lacking true experience in a down market (or at least studied one out more than attending a Gary Watts cheerleading session), there is little to convince them outside of the crushing pressure of the future markets.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are agents who will actually flourish in the coming real estate bubble pop.  These hardened souls know the importance of negotiation, and have experience to back it up.  Agents like these are well worth their six percent.  I came across just one of these recently.  I have only had brief contact with his business partner Lina, but after reading his website, I am convinced he&#8217;s at least going to maintain his business while many others like our aforementioned Mr. Pannatoni are going to scramble.  Embracing change is key to managing it.</p>
<p>Turning to <a href="http://www.livinginshadowridge.com/">his site</a>, we read:</p>
<blockquote><p><font class="P">The Return Of The Short Sale </font></p>
<p><font class="P">If you lived in the Shadowridge area or anywhere else in California about fifteen years ago and owned a home, you probably remember short sales – they are back. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">A recent report from Sacramento sounds eerily similar to the 1990-1996 California real estate bust, except this time, home prices are multiples of what they were back then, therefore….so will be the drop! </font></p>
<p><font class="P">I have been talking about inflated home values and financing foolishness for several years now. In 2000 or so, there were the 125% loans, scary, but home values began marching upwards as real estate looked attractive to the folks who had chased the .coms.<br />
Folks wanted to grow what they had made or rebuild what they had bled in the stock markets. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">Greenspan had raised interest rates decimating investments that were already overvalued causing a mass exodus from the equity markets into real estate. Then rates dropped again and property values begin to rise further. Builders who were behind on keeping up with housing demand began to build like mad. In addition, the folks to begin to, once again, speculate in real estate just as they did in the stock market. It was easy because of technology and the web. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">Day trade this stock….flip this house!  </font></p>
<p><font class="P">Now, the folks who can really afford to own a home, are seemingly leaving California in droves. We have lots of people coming but not the type who can afford to buy these homes. These new citizens are more likely to use our social services and put a burden on our resources. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">I don’t know if the statistics show it (I haven’t bothered to check), I just know the termite inspector we use told me 18 months ago that 3 out of 5 of the homeowners who he is doing inspections for, are leaving the state. And this continues. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">With so many homes at such high prices and so few buyers, what happens? </font></p>
<p><font class="P">The 35% property value drop that we saw between 1991 and 1994, that’s what happens. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">Thirty Five Percent. That was pretty much the price drop we saw across southern California during that period. There were pockets that did better, there always are. But, pretty much across the board in southern California, the home prices dropped by 35% or more. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">I remember, I was selling foreclosures and doing short sales for homeowners in the Shadowridge area during that time. By the way, what was your real estate agent doing back then? This would be a good question to ask them, before you list your home for sale of course! </font></p>
<p><font class="P">The possibility of a short sale arises when you need to sell your house, but you owe more than it&#8217;s worth &#8211; like a fully-financed new car being driven off the dealer&#8217;s lot, you are &#8220;upside-down&#8221; on your loan as soon as your tail lights have crossed the curb. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">That is exactly what has happened to thousands of homeowners who, for a variety of reasons, should never have bought homes but did. Most of them putting no money down. Many of these homeowners are also investors who own more than one home. Speculating on real estate just like they did in stocks. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">Here’s the rub. If, for one reason or another, these homeowners must sell, then they are faced with a few choices, none of which are very appealing: </font></p>
<p><font class="P">-Sell the house, and pay the difference to the lender…right </font></p>
<p><font class="P">-Walk away, and give the house back to the lender…the lender doesn’t want it but will foreclose if they must or,</font></p>
<p><font class="P">-Make a deal with the lender so they don’t wind up with another foreclosure. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">I specialized in this sort of thing in the 1990s; luckily for many, I have dusted off my short sale notebook and am now helping people hand their homes back to their lender with the least amount of hassle. </font></p>
<p><font class="P">I am becoming a very busy guy.<br />
</font></p></blockquote>
<p>I have no doubt he is going to be a very busy guy.  San Diego County is encountering its share of short sales now.</p>
<p>Thirty Five Percent was a lot back then, and it&#8217;s even more now.  He could be spot on with his predictions, even if it is just a &#8220;back of the napkin&#8221; calculation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/04/getting-it-some-agents-do.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>6</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Don&#8217;t Blink or You&#8217;ll Miss the Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/03/dont-blink-or-youll-miss-the-truth.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/03/dont-blink-or-youll-miss-the-truth.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Mean Reversion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/03/dont-blink-or-youll-miss-the-truth.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[There is an old saying that if a lie is told enough times, it becomes truth. For the lack of a better term, there is a definite misconception I have seen floating about the internet that has begged for a response from someone &#8211; if not in the mainstream media, at least a blogger to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an old saying that if a lie is told enough times, it becomes truth.  For the lack of a better term, there is a definite misconception I have seen floating about the internet that has begged for a response from someone &#8211; if not in the mainstream media, at least a blogger to attack it.  Since noone has bothered to rid themselves of the problem, I guess I&#8217;ll do my best at continuing to dispell myths. (<a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2006/11/schwab-chart-builder-confidence-vs-sp.html">Calculated Risk already did some here</a>)</p>
<p>I enjoy a good thriller as much as anyone else.  Oftentimes, the truth is stranger than fiction.   This myth, however seems to be created by <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/weekend/ecslump_1.html">CNN.com</a> and perpetuated (or at least commented on) by one of the most interesting bloggers that I know of.  Interesting not because he brings any specific knowledge to the table, but rather that his biting remarks, poor temper, and lack of in-depth research leaves him to be the butt of numerous internet jokes.  Yes, we are talking about Larry Nussbaum.  His internet presence has been immortalized by other bloggers declaring &#8220;You&#8217;ve been Nussbaumed&#8221; whenever his presence is made known by his constant truthiness comments repeated over and over enough times at least someone must actually believe them now.   His most recent article that I have seen floating around is not actually a new one.  It originated a number of months earlier, but the basic jist of the article is that there appears to be some uncanny similarity between the <a href="http://www.themoneyblogs.com/millionairenow/my.blog/nahb-housing-market-index-and-the-sp-500-79-correlation.html">NAHB Index and the S&amp;P 500 Index</a>.  The following even appears a number of times in different places on the internet accompanied with the following story:</p>
<blockquote><p> Tucked away in the briefcase of Liz Ann Sonders, chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab &amp; Co., is a chart so scary she&#8217;s hesitant to show it to investors. It plots the National Association of Home Builders&#8217; Housing Market index &#8211; a monthly measure of builder confidence &#8211; against the Standard &amp; Poor&#8217;s 500 stock market index, with a one-year lag.</p>
<p>It turns out that the mood of builders is a terrific stock market bellwether: The correlation between current builder confidence and future stock market returns over the past ten years is downright unnerving.</p>
<p>Not only did the NAHB index presage the start of the post-1994 bull market in stocks, but its decline starting in 1999 foreshadowed the equity market collapse that came the following year. Builder confidence rebounded in November 2001 &#8211; a year ahead of the stock market upswing that began in October 2002.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sp-vs-hosuing0.png" title="SP500 to NAHB Index"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sp-vs-hosuing0.png" alt="SP500 to NAHB Index" /></a></p>
<p>This is concerning from a number of aspects.  If it were true, this would represent a significant predictor of future stock market direction.</p>
<p>However, the BigNose.com takes on the trouble and determines that there is perhaps only a <a href="http://www.bignose.org/blog/index.php?/archives/129-When-charts-go-bad.htmltrackbacks">cursory and temporary relationship</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p> If only there were a <a href="http://www.bignose.org/blog/index.php?/archives/58-Not-like-the-others.html">Sesame Street song</a> &#8220;Correlation Is Not Causation&#8221;.  I bet I&#8217;d sing it all the time.</p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.sesameworkshop.org/sesamestreet/games/play.php?contentId=1364&amp;">One of These Things Is Not Like the Others</a>&#8221; will just have to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Drawing them up myself (now with even more recent data, here is how it looks (previous decade and updated to include current times).   There is often too much of a bias to simply reflect our own beliefs (be it bullish or bearish) into the information we read.  Minds seeking the truth will be more interested in facts that have been very different from the &#8220;expected outcome&#8221;</p>
<p>The First one is recreating their baseline to ensure that we have a clear picture of what is going on:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx1.PNG" title="NAHB SP500 Mine 1"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx1.PNG" alt="NAHB SP500 Mine 1" /></a></p>
<p>Yep, correlation exists with the base data.  Then, I tried once again the previous 10 years to see if there was a correlation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx2.PNG" title="NAHB SP500 Mine 2"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx2.PNG" alt="NAHB SP500 Mine 2" /></a></p>
<p>None that I can see.</p>
<p>Then, I extended it out to the most recent data:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx3.PNG" title="nahbspx3.PNG"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/nahbspx3.PNG" alt="nahbspx3.PNG" /></a></p>
<p>Sorry, not seeing it anymore.  We have clearly diverged in a statistically significant manner, and I&#8217;m just not clear what would cause that if there were some correlation.</p>
<p>Kinda reminds me of this picture at least in part.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/grilled-cheese.jpg" title="Grilled Cheese"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/grilled-cheese.jpg" alt="Grilled Cheese" /></a></p>
<p>I guess you can see what you want to see.  To me it just looks like a piece of toast.</p>
<p>The worst part of the entire comparison is that you&#8217;re comparing apples and oranges.  The NAHB is an absolute measure between 0 and 100.  The S&amp;P500 shares no such tether, and frankly with US monetary inflation the way it is, there is really no upper limit.  Correlation is definitely NOT causation in this case, nor does it last very long.  Like the normal cheese sandwich that will crumble and get moldy, the CNN article just doesn&#8217;t stand the test of time (or history for that matter)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/03/dont-blink-or-youll-miss-the-truth.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Chuck on Dead Cat Bounces</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/02/chuck-on-dead-cat-bounces.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/02/chuck-on-dead-cat-bounces.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Dead Cat Bounce]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Mean Reversion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/02/chuck-on-dead-cat-bounces.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[With the mainstream media in a tizzy about whether housing has bottomed or not, the professional wishers and hopers are all too quick to tell us that everything will be fine, everything is ok. Everything is not fine, everything will not be okay. David Lereah, in fact was quoted: Last year &#8220;was the year of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the mainstream media in a tizzy about whether housing has bottomed or not, the professional wishers and hopers are all too quick to tell us that everything will be fine, everything is ok.</p>
<p><strong>Everything is not fine, everything will not be okay.</strong></p>
<p>David Lereah, in fact was quoted:</p>
<blockquote><p>Last year &#8220;was the year of contraction,&#8221; said David Lereah, the NAR&#8217;s chief economist. &#8220;When we get the figures for this spring, I expect to see a discernible improvement in both sales and prices.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh&#8230; yeah.  Call me in a few months and tell me how that&#8217;s working out for you.</p>
<p>The sad part (and the cause of so many dead cat bounces) is that the psychological environment changes enough for committed (and often overcommitted) interested parties to buy back in (Never Been A Better Time To Buy crowd).  It is only when these parties become dissillusioned by repeated losses that the entire market capitulates and often sinks below fair value.  In the heady times, leverage is power, in bad times, leverage is death.</p>
<p><span id="more-173"></span>Take for example, the latest &#8220;stock market crash&#8221; if you will.  There were at least 4 distinct sucker rallys (aka Dead Cat Bounce) that occur from top to bottom.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ixic-dcb.jpg" title="NASDAQ 1999 to 2002"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ixic-dcb.jpg" alt="NASDAQ 1999 to 2002" height="319" width="557" /></a></p>
<p>Eerily similar, you will find that in a similar time frame (3 years), the Dow Jones had very similar action:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dji-dcb1.jpg" title="Dow Jones 1928 to 1933"><img src="http://www.socalbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dji-dcb1.jpg" alt="Dow Jones 1928 to 1933" height="322" width="566" /></a></p>
<p>The year was 1929.</p>
<p>The fact that dead cat bounces occur is not in itself surprising.  What is often surprising is how easily participants latch on to them.  When so much has gone right for so many for so long, it is hard to imagine that it was all just hot air after all.</p>
<p>When Americans hear that their paper wealth is slipping away, the denial that grips otherwise educated, informed, and critical thinking homeowners is stunning.</p>
<p>Typical coping methods include:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;ll come back in the spring, I know it will&#8221;</em>  Even in the face of abysmal affordability, faltering economy, and a lending meltdown.   Not surprisingly, many were in denial last year with the exact same phrases coming from many Real Estate Agents&#8217; lips&#8230; and not surprisingly David Lereah&#8217;s as well.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I&#8217;m not going to give it away!&#8221;</em>  Eliciting at least a few snickers from impartial observers.  They may not be giving it away, but the bank may be forced to.  This, of course, implies that there is some fundamental rationalization of the value of the home by the rents that it brings.  When rents can barely cover 1/2 of the mortgage payment alone (not to even include taxes, insurance, or maintenance costs), while simultaneously having some of history&#8217;s lowest mortgage rates and in an environment of tightening lending standards, the future doesn&#8217;t look bright.  You think affordability is bad now?  Just wait a few more months and you&#8217;ll be surprised when statistics show that even fewer people in Southern California can afford a median priced home than the current 7% or less (depending on the county).</p>
<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s all the media&#8217;s fault.&#8221;</em>  Yes, it is.  They bring you the truth.  Good when it&#8217;s going up, bad when it&#8217;s going down.  Still, think of all of the jobs we&#8217;ll create in the foreclosure reconveyance, reposession, and bank auditor areas.  Bad for you, good for someone else.  Maybe it&#8217;s just another form of creative destruction.</p>
<p><strong>Will the housing market have a Dead Cat Bounce this spring?</strong></p>
<p>The question is not so much, will it happen, but rather will it FEEL like it&#8217;s happening?  Drawing inferences between very liquid markets such as the stock market are tepid at best.  Because of the illiquidity of the housing market, any emotional lift caused by this psychological change is unlikely to bleed through to the price.  Volume?  Maybe.  Price?  Unlikely.</p>
<p>As we have seen, volume in Southern California is at its lowest since 1998.  Which means we can still go even lower.  And why couldn&#8217;t we?  Have we resolved the underlying issue of affordability?  Have we resolved the issue of the imbalance between rent and owning?  Without these changes, the market is only being puffed up by more hot air.  Reinflating the bubble with a small leak only serves to do one thing&#8230; place more pressure on the expanding hole&#8230; which causes even more deflation.   The fact that housing markets are like the Titanic only means that it doesn&#8217;t immediately sink when it hits an iceberg, it just means there is time to get on a life raft.  While 8 months ago was the best time to get on one, it&#8217;s still not too late.  The last one took 7 years from top to bottom in Southern California, and another 3 years to return to previous price levels (13 in total adjusted for inflation).  This is one DCB that sellers should not pass up.</p>
<p>Chuck Ponzi</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/02/chuck-on-dead-cat-bounces.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>12</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Still a Renting Loser?</title>
		<link>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/01/still-renting-loser.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/01/still-renting-loser.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bubble]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psychology]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Rents]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/01/still-renting-loser.html</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I think the advertisment says it all:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I think the advertisment says it all:</div>
<div><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5024567507120145138" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_POODYyn-wc0/RbrZhsPdwvI/AAAAAAAAAAY/spfIbmIVn08/s320/rentingloser.bmp" border="0" /></div></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.socalbubble.com/2007/01/still-renting-loser.html/feed</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>7</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

