After my last post, one might believe that real estate agents have no other opinion than the mantra of “housing prices only go up”. For those ill-informed and those lacking true experience in a down market (or at least studied one out more than attending a Gary Watts cheerleading session), there is little to convince them outside of the crushing pressure of the future markets.

On the other hand, there are agents who will actually flourish in the coming real estate bubble pop. These hardened souls know the importance of negotiation, and have experience to back it up. Agents like these are well worth their six percent. I came across just one of these recently. I have only had brief contact with his business partner Lina, but after reading his website, I am convinced he’s at least going to maintain his business while many others like our aforementioned Mr. Pannatoni are going to scramble. Embracing change is key to managing it.

Turning to his site, we read:

The Return Of The Short Sale

If you lived in the Shadowridge area or anywhere else in California about fifteen years ago and owned a home, you probably remember short sales – they are back.

A recent report from Sacramento sounds eerily similar to the 1990-1996 California real estate bust, except this time, home prices are multiples of what they were back then, therefore….so will be the drop!

I have been talking about inflated home values and financing foolishness for several years now. In 2000 or so, there were the 125% loans, scary, but home values began marching upwards as real estate looked attractive to the folks who had chased the .coms.
Folks wanted to grow what they had made or rebuild what they had bled in the stock markets.

Greenspan had raised interest rates decimating investments that were already overvalued causing a mass exodus from the equity markets into real estate. Then rates dropped again and property values begin to rise further. Builders who were behind on keeping up with housing demand began to build like mad. In addition, the folks to begin to, once again, speculate in real estate just as they did in the stock market. It was easy because of technology and the web.

Day trade this stock….flip this house!

Now, the folks who can really afford to own a home, are seemingly leaving California in droves. We have lots of people coming but not the type who can afford to buy these homes. These new citizens are more likely to use our social services and put a burden on our resources.

I don’t know if the statistics show it (I haven’t bothered to check), I just know the termite inspector we use told me 18 months ago that 3 out of 5 of the homeowners who he is doing inspections for, are leaving the state. And this continues.

With so many homes at such high prices and so few buyers, what happens?

The 35% property value drop that we saw between 1991 and 1994, that’s what happens.

Thirty Five Percent. That was pretty much the price drop we saw across southern California during that period. There were pockets that did better, there always are. But, pretty much across the board in southern California, the home prices dropped by 35% or more.

I remember, I was selling foreclosures and doing short sales for homeowners in the Shadowridge area during that time. By the way, what was your real estate agent doing back then? This would be a good question to ask them, before you list your home for sale of course!

The possibility of a short sale arises when you need to sell your house, but you owe more than it’s worth – like a fully-financed new car being driven off the dealer’s lot, you are “upside-down” on your loan as soon as your tail lights have crossed the curb.

That is exactly what has happened to thousands of homeowners who, for a variety of reasons, should never have bought homes but did. Most of them putting no money down. Many of these homeowners are also investors who own more than one home. Speculating on real estate just like they did in stocks.

Here’s the rub. If, for one reason or another, these homeowners must sell, then they are faced with a few choices, none of which are very appealing:

-Sell the house, and pay the difference to the lender…right

-Walk away, and give the house back to the lender…the lender doesn’t want it but will foreclose if they must or,

-Make a deal with the lender so they don’t wind up with another foreclosure.

I specialized in this sort of thing in the 1990s; luckily for many, I have dusted off my short sale notebook and am now helping people hand their homes back to their lender with the least amount of hassle.

I am becoming a very busy guy.

I have no doubt he is going to be a very busy guy. San Diego County is encountering its share of short sales now.

Thirty Five Percent was a lot back then, and it’s even more now. He could be spot on with his predictions, even if it is just a “back of the napkin” calculation.

 

Don’t Blink or You’ll Miss the Truth

There is an old saying that if a lie is told enough times, it becomes truth. For the lack of a better term, there is a definite misconception I have seen floating about the internet that has begged for a response from someone – if not in the mainstream media, at least a blogger to attack it. Since noone has bothered to rid themselves of the problem, I guess I’ll do my best at continuing to dispell myths. (Calculated Risk already did some here)

I enjoy a good thriller as much as anyone else. Oftentimes, the truth is stranger than fiction. This myth, however seems to be created by CNN.com and perpetuated (or at least commented on) by one of the most interesting bloggers that I know of. Interesting not because he brings any specific knowledge to the table, but rather that his biting remarks, poor temper, and lack of in-depth research leaves him to be the butt of numerous internet jokes. Yes, we are talking about Larry Nussbaum. His internet presence has been immortalized by other bloggers declaring “You’ve been Nussbaumed” whenever his presence is made known by his constant truthiness comments repeated over and over enough times at least someone must actually believe them now. His most recent article that I have seen floating around is not actually a new one. It originated a number of months earlier, but the basic jist of the article is that there appears to be some uncanny similarity between the NAHB Index and the S&P 500 Index. The following even appears a number of times in different places on the internet accompanied with the following story:

Tucked away in the briefcase of Liz Ann Sonders, chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab & Co., is a chart so scary she’s hesitant to show it to investors. It plots the National Association of Home Builders’ Housing Market index – a monthly measure of builder confidence – against the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock market index, with a one-year lag.

It turns out that the mood of builders is a terrific stock market bellwether: The correlation between current builder confidence and future stock market returns over the past ten years is downright unnerving.

Not only did the NAHB index presage the start of the post-1994 bull market in stocks, but its decline starting in 1999 foreshadowed the equity market collapse that came the following year. Builder confidence rebounded in November 2001 – a year ahead of the stock market upswing that began in October 2002.

SP500 to NAHB Index

This is concerning from a number of aspects. If it were true, this would represent a significant predictor of future stock market direction.

However, the BigNose.com takes on the trouble and determines that there is perhaps only a cursory and temporary relationship.

If only there were a Sesame Street song “Correlation Is Not Causation”. I bet I’d sing it all the time.

One of These Things Is Not Like the Others” will just have to do.

Drawing them up myself (now with even more recent data, here is how it looks (previous decade and updated to include current times). There is often too much of a bias to simply reflect our own beliefs (be it bullish or bearish) into the information we read. Minds seeking the truth will be more interested in facts that have been very different from the “expected outcome”

The First one is recreating their baseline to ensure that we have a clear picture of what is going on:

NAHB SP500 Mine 1

Yep, correlation exists with the base data.  Then, I tried once again the previous 10 years to see if there was a correlation:

NAHB SP500 Mine 2

None that I can see.

Then, I extended it out to the most recent data:

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Sorry, not seeing it anymore.  We have clearly diverged in a statistically significant manner, and I’m just not clear what would cause that if there were some correlation.

Kinda reminds me of this picture at least in part.

Grilled Cheese

I guess you can see what you want to see. To me it just looks like a piece of toast.

The worst part of the entire comparison is that you’re comparing apples and oranges. The NAHB is an absolute measure between 0 and 100. The S&P500 shares no such tether, and frankly with US monetary inflation the way it is, there is really no upper limit. Correlation is definitely NOT causation in this case, nor does it last very long.  Like the normal cheese sandwich that will crumble and get moldy, the CNN article just doesn’t stand the test of time (or history for that matter)

 

Chuck on Dead Cat Bounces

With the mainstream media in a tizzy about whether housing has bottomed or not, the professional wishers and hopers are all too quick to tell us that everything will be fine, everything is ok.

Everything is not fine, everything will not be okay.

David Lereah, in fact was quoted:

Last year “was the year of contraction,” said David Lereah, the NAR’s chief economist. “When we get the figures for this spring, I expect to see a discernible improvement in both sales and prices.”

Uh… yeah. Call me in a few months and tell me how that’s working out for you.

The sad part (and the cause of so many dead cat bounces) is that the psychological environment changes enough for committed (and often overcommitted) interested parties to buy back in (Never Been A Better Time To Buy crowd). It is only when these parties become dissillusioned by repeated losses that the entire market capitulates and often sinks below fair value. In the heady times, leverage is power, in bad times, leverage is death.

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